Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4ck5-0002JV-T9 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:53:22 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.153]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N4ck2-0002J9-Be for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:53:21 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so720386fga.10 for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:53:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZKxO0ww3FHBcpg5EwqQCrn/U4IaILHlRyvqkhy3rH2k=; b=BPWKUT6/GaxQix0i4ZGXlhfTObqr2gXxrQZ2UrEanjQpv6hbZzEDFK6uIUWaJlf8O4 nHOxsysnNw0nsL0ttmVJhaGE+cpu4dNTw16il3WIVOuJ/cnveTO7rU5vP4rjTjA/kljT wiGm9I/DzG1+9imkN9a3vHgAVz8MHC2csIwEY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=UH6AAT9Sf2DVIBBZJzJ4SK2TqLuDItUqI/eccuoyyBa/SBjSqKh+GuaA+gc3gFH4io Kxwj4caZNFEJal5VnNoo226Q49OIcXcPKCc+HodMEjM36mRqaxMIwXWsQORkBKjsDUmo aCv57CpD7UjpRu/TSRiF7ECv2KN7bp4h2eCOc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.161.205 with SMTP id s13mr614232fax.27.1257090796450; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:53:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200911010923.12734.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <7f1d42860910311620i4b112481k6243982cd35fffab@mail.gmail.com> <200910312012.52632.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4de8c3930911010100y91da761o7d75cdc0ab769264@mail.gmail.com> <200911010923.12734.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:53:16 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: be9f9f804bea262c Message-ID: <4de8c3930911010753s23562bcehe5969c20c9aea60@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Study plan for a quiz- I'd like a second opinion on this one From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-archive-position: 2520 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jbotijlan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 660 2009/11/1 Pierre Abbat : > On Sunday 01 November 2009 04:00:32 tijlan wrote: >> Some languages don't have adjectives, and i wonder how would speakers >> of those languages interpret "morsi" in contrast to "mrobi'o". > > Lojban doesn't have adjectives either. The difference is aspect: you spend a > short time or an instant dying, and are dead thereafter. Showing such difference is what ZAhO are for: da ca co'i morsi (One dies.) da ca ba'o morsi (One is dead.) So: da ca morsi (One dies / is dead.) and da morsi (One dies/died/... / is/was/... dead.) Just like the tense, the aspect is undetermined for a bare selbri. mu'o