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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:01:56 -0300
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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Study plan for a quiz- I'd like a second 	opinion on this one
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Steven Lytle <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
> I disagree. The present perfect in English in general means "was and is
> still". There is no sense of "is no longer".

It may depend on the context. "He has been dead 25 times already, so
he is not afraid of dying again." I agree that normally if someone has
been dead before, they probably still are.

> In the case of "has been dead", though, if something has been dead, it still
> is dead.

In all likelyhood, yes.

But whatever the quirks in English, the Lojban "ba'o morsi" is the
state that results after the being dead is over.

mu'o mi'e xorxes