Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:45:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGLMo-0005bX-Sg for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:45:47 -0800 Received: from mail-ew0-f217.google.com ([209.85.219.217]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGLMi-0005Ze-O9; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:45:45 -0800 Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so1100302ewy.11 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:45:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=KlfhFB/r41p2HXxeIhqKv2YqFEucETL3xRDYBhzNlRI=; b=vX4gjrNsTWe5Z5W7vi0sSH1WWkNIdl0CFmd+UwLisJhMIHEb5FCUfNxFatT53iiRcI G2I6VRoDqyHBUefUhs/cIfl2kKuP1kfLFJsgLQcb4goh0WIi6Qx7GAgO1Y8eHmUl89cz A1vsKDJdNjr0PLnM3+YRWHWFpItczeH4l/NC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cNxpydfXWSyBfhAGI38JdzeYHIPkdYZT4yb3NneJwB64Gd6Qx9NXhEMKo5ZQCjJS9V Ux3/QoSxv0R1CBfnOf+rXTMAFvdJVs+5rbl4gjB+W2iWBS3e6NgLVCY7W8FYOBkI1zVY jmkqtuGNAkLIU+azsVqgJXxc0v843+6pk0kEA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.89.202 with SMTP id c52mr731223wef.215.1259883933592; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:45:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:45:33 -0600 Message-ID: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Smart.fm and Lojban From: "Jon \"Top Hat\" Jones" To: lojban-list@lojban.org, lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d64b1851ed2b0479db966c X-archive-position: 2595 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 3036 --0016e6d64b1851ed2b0479db966c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've decided to add the gismu as a lesson on Smart.fm, and I wanted to discuss this with rodo. First, I'd like to invite anyone interested in helping to complete the lesson to do so. I'm not certain how collaboration works, but I do know it's possible. Second, I have a question as to formatting for the individual items, that being, which entry method would be better for learners? 1) All-inclusive, i.e.: Item: text: klama translation: x1 travels to x2 from x3 via route x4 by means of x5 2) Individual, i.e.: Item: text: lo klama translation: A traveller Item: text: lo se klama translation: A traveller's origin Item: text: lo te klama translation: A traveller's destination Item: text: lo ve klama translation: A route travelled Item: text: lo xe klama translation: A method of travelling 3) Both 1 and 2. Lastly, seeing as Smart.fm's English text-to-speech will incorrectly pronounce Lojban words, and assuming that no language pronounces things exactly as Lojban does, audio needs to be recorded for each entry so that learners hear the words as they are meant to be heard. So, should each contributor record the audio for the entries s/he contributes, or should one person be selected to do all the audio? -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --0016e6d64b1851ed2b0479db966c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've decided to add the gismu as a lesson on Smart.fm, and I wanted to = discuss this with rodo.

First, I'd like to invite anyone interes= ted in helping to complete the lesson to do so. I'm not certain how col= laboration works, but I do know it's possible.

Second, I have a question as to formatting for the individual items, th= at being, which entry method would be better for learners?

1) All-in= clusive, i.e.:

Item:
text: klama
translation: x1 travels to x2= from x3 via route x4 by means of x5

2) Individual, i.e.:

Item:
text: lo klama
translation: A t= raveller

Item:
text: lo se klama
translation: A traveller'= s origin

Item:
text: lo te klama
translation: A traveller's destination

Item:
text: lo ve klama
translation: A route travelled

Item:
text: lo xe klama
translation: A method of travelling

3) Both 1 and 2.

Lastly, = seeing as Smart.fm's English text-to-speech will incorrectly pronounce = Lojban words, and assuming that no language pronounces things exactly as Lo= jban does, audio needs to be recorded for each entry so that learners hear = the words as they are meant to be heard. So, should each contributor record= the audio for the entries s/he contributes, or should one person be select= ed to do all the audio?

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le = bende pe denpa bu

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