Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGi55-0006LH-T2 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:01:00 -0800 Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGi51-0006HV-AR for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:00:58 -0800 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@iceland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.5]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB500iJd001408 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 00:00:44 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.3/8.12.8/Submit) id nB500iNZ019408 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 00:00:44 GMT Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 00:00:43 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "people disappear all the time" Message-ID: <20091205000042.GA3337@sdf.lonestar.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org References: <249d5b950912041550u634ca453vf182a04cef5b3708@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <249d5b950912041550u634ca453vf182a04cef5b3708@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-archive-position: 2610 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 842 de'i li 04 pi'e 12 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. Steven Lytle .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > I'm trying to translate (not necessarily to Lojban, but Lojban would be > helpful) the sentence "People disappear all the time", but to make sure it > means what I want, I've been trying to paraphrase it. The paraphrase comes > out something like: "There are many and frequent occurrences of people > disappearing". I also want to capture the fact that it's one disappearance > per person. > Any suggestions? .skamyxatra "{lonu lo prenu cu canci cu cafne}," possibly with "{so'iroi}" or similar before "{cafne}," is the best I can come up with. I don't think it's incompatible with different people disappearing on different occasions, but I don't know how to make such an aspect explicit. mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. -- ko senpi lo du'u do bilga lonu senpi