Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NH2Zq-0002jC-SE for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:54:07 -0800 Received: from merle.it.northwestern.edu ([129.105.16.57]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NH2Zi-0002gO-IP for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:54:04 -0800 Received: from [165.124.160.38] (vpn-165-124-160-38.vpn.northwestern.edu [165.124.160.38]) by merle.it.northwestern.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43B37449 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:53:56 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <702226df0912042059g4194ea1dxd4c04f18e01a1f8b@mail.gmail.com> References: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031603s73c24458iac02ab02720b2893@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031609q2f0c62fdt758f426476f6a124@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912031907x30c53216hcaeb3ae9d72eafe4@mail.gmail.com> <4643bbcd0912031948l3cb8acb1t2c6f11d198a56306@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912032225i35a35f07h2d7eb6db24644300@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912041158p7bd04c95pda723a2e69ce595a@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912041634o31e73850m7e73b3694a2888f2@mail.gmail.com> <249d5b950912041919j6b9a4c7eo10c92fb5ad26d100@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0912042059g4194ea1dxd4c04f18e01a1f8b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <087ADCFF-B1D8-4D91-AFC6-B88E473BB256@northwestern.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Steven Belknap Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Smart.fm and Lojban Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:53:53 -0600 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-archive-position: 2615 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sbelknap@northwestern.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 3314 Hey Top Hat, I'll help with the smart.fm project. I had already been learning the gismu that are in there so far. Should there be pictures of the gismu as well? I agree with you about the recordings of the words; gotta get the pronunciation right! I'm doing this on my iphone. What do you need me to do and how do I do it? -Steve On Dec 4, 2009, at 22:59, Jon Top Hat Jones wrote: > The point to recording them is because the Smart.fm "speaks" the > words in it's learning programs, and the computer voice > mispronounces the words, since Lojban's pronunciation differs from > English. As such, it is necessary to record audio of the words > being pronounced correctly so that people learning Lojban using the > Smart.fm lessons learn their pronunciation. > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Steven Lytle > wrote: > I don't see any point to recording all the gismu and their > arguments in this way. Once the sounds and some representative > words using those sounds have been learned, the whole language is > accessible. I think you're wasting your time and effort, but > they're yours to waste. > OTOH, if you're doing it because you like to, then more power to you. > > stevo > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones > wrote: > Just as an update, I've managed to get through the gismu list to > baxso, included all the sumti (as in , , baxso>) for each of the gismu. That equates to 32 gismu and 87 > sumti so far. Seeing as my butt really hurts from sitting in this > chair for so long, I'm taking a break for today- I'll see about > getting through another 32 or so gismu tomorrow. > > None but the first two- bacru lo bacru lo se bacru, and badri lo > badri lo se badri- have audio recorded for them, so if you are > using any of the lessons, don't pay attention to the computer > voice- it's guaranteed to pronounce them worngly. > > I would very much appreciate any contributions any of you care to > make, either by helping make the individual items- which requires > typing each one in, BY HAND, or submitting audio for the gismu. The > more work I have to do myself, the longer it's going to take, and I > would really like to have this finished before 2011. > > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones > wrote: > The all-inclusive lesson can be subscribed to right now, but it > only has 6 entries so far. The other two have two and four items > respectively, and Smart.fm requires a minimum of 5 items to be able > to subscribe to it. As more entries are made, however, they'll be > able to be subscribed to as well. > > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Leon wrote: > This is great. I've been using smart.fm after hearing about it on > this mailing list. It's a fantastic resource. > I noticed the site is still a little buggy since I had trouble > subscribing to one of the Lojban modules. I hope i can subscribe to > this one. > > Leon. > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu >