Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NrDsR-0001ZE-2z for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:14:51 -0700 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NrDsH-0001XM-S7 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:14:47 -0700 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so3536686bwz.26 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:14:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m0Ji6WjZ1R5HT8nP3Hl1mOPCgBW0HQeyoTTPgDOf5Hc=; b=ZsQ/ANNsSJ5q2mdO9yfoM+g/9wf3SHQ9cAsjMGg+GLyNs+itC9geaEWTm/yDTP55GQ MogG9X/JssmsEKtL6sa9hLQhnPqQOSSlK3wjS+S3IndJgyMXvcve6YmRqKcOHsf8Jzgu O+YmEw4N8pp4Ak9B+y6ln3pHVFseHEmYymCDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VHNVXVi1Ale46Z4sqYnRXH4REC0YSYNBQ1kMdjm6UYbodwLL5Qh196vzuX5AQAJ+8a D4lSaD5xbS6o9VRh4skCgs872PVhsew6n8WmOrGHaOhyPOALuOgVua0BxxDdJjpwq9IB Do9z95vW+fBewGxsIOA/CD7gwZWfsb9QpAPvo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.4.150 with SMTP id 22mr5859221bkr.192.1268673275350; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:14:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1f1080831003150959g65a0df85ve65508bc16cbdb0f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4de8c3931003130452v3473ee1ei70da65f022ac2b1b@mail.gmail.com> <5715b9301003131245n23c64a7emfa56bccba3799045@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003131607v64d15ae1u29c42305e114c48a@mail.gmail.com> <201003132351.36353.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17561003140741o4dda967cn5da839d5f69fdeb2@mail.gmail.com> <1f1080831003150959g65a0df85ve65508bc16cbdb0f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:14:35 -0300 Message-ID: <925d17561003151014p415766a4n310d69d20b72bac7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: How versatile is "nu"? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 3006 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 589 On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > So {jei} is exactly identical to {du'u xukau}? Or is there a semantic > difference? There are two candidate meanings for "jei". Nobody really knows which one is the "correct" one. One of the meanings is "du'u xukau", i.e. it basically corresponds to the indirect question "whether". The other candidate meaning is "the truth value of". "jei" is not used much, since we already have "du'u xukau" for "whether", and "the truth value of" is not something that comes up often in conversation. mu'o mi'e xorxes