Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NtOfq-0005Ld-2o for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:10:50 -0700 Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com ([209.85.212.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NtOff-0005Ji-Bd for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:10:44 -0700 Received: by vws13 with SMTP id 13so1068539vws.40 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:10:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eN1prcDvdYNw3j+xf6a0I4UGS0eDT+U0UgmAdTK4kmw=; b=eBdc1NwltQqko+PGVzMzdkcwdYK00h4nCunKRZAgHUsOnATp67Rys4Uwwtdix1dbUB gdMaSipqkYmJAqRWZm2aHZSicKLEzqxSpBJENYSUSOTxW8ZpE2ojnIgUs6nee/nk9TC1 7GTJvmLlcc4u6LY+5Twn76nQ/pNepLowbmA1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vLueahqxew0WKcadAh719hXMi0u3+PCsz+2TrYJSmRUz24UV1mjcxyvg6AJK9Yv1u8 Q630pF1fTXeiyddyxCseDpoU3TmfpmPbCePlaxjWiEfZYnSHdbDGLlxH8mVkCEOM0Yiw 8F0mMRK21CMUZGgdoCfum2gquqeBTBtQ1c3vE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.88.70 with SMTP id z6mr2392072vcl.65.1269191432936; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:10:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <925d17561003210712r4b4a02f7l1531cf6997f361c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <5715b9301003210025q7f680f5eo50b3e7d76c38f116@mail.gmail.com> <925d17561003210712r4b4a02f7l1531cf6997f361c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:10:32 -0400 Message-ID: <5715b9301003211010h21ddaf0ch95f5f80ae56de924@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: .imu'ibo From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e646926e831d1a048252a881 X-archive-position: 3053 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 3066 --0016e646926e831d1a048252a881 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > For PU it's the other way around. Hmm, tenses used as tcita have confused me for this reason. So, as a followup question, {broda pu lo nu brode} means "broda and then brode" or "broda but first brode"? Does PU when used as a tcita mark the main bridi or the following sumti and what is it's "origin"? 2010/3/21 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > I've been perusing the CLL looking for an answer but haven't found a ve= ry > > clear one so I'll ask here. Does {broda .imu'ibo brode} mean "broda > > therefore (motivationally) brode" or "broda because of (motivationally) > > brode"? > > The latter. It is roughly equivalent to "broda mu'i lo nu brode". > > > Same question for PU. > > For PU it's the other way around. "broda .ibabo brode" roughly means > "brode ba lo nu broda". > > > Basically this use of {bo} confuses me in > > just about every way. > > That's understandable, because the conventions for tags are not as > consistent as they should have been. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > > --0016e646926e831d1a048252a881 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=A0For PU it's the other way around.

Hmm, tenses= used as tcita have confused me for this reason. =A0So, as a followup quest= ion, {broda pu lo nu brode} means "broda and then brode" or "= ;broda but first brode"? =A0Does PU when used as a tcita mark the main= bridi or the following sumti and what is it's "origin"?

2010/3/21 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com&= gt;
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been perusing the CLL looking for an answer but haven't f= ound a very
> clear one so I'll ask here. =A0Does {broda .imu'ibo brode} mea= n "broda
> therefore (motivationally) brode" or "broda because of (moti= vationally)
> brode"?

The latter. It is roughly equivalent to "broda mu'i lo nu br= ode".

> Same question for PU.

For PU it's the other way around. "broda .ibabo brode" roughl= y means
"brode ba lo nu broda".

>=A0Basically this use of {bo} confuses me in
> just about every way.

That's understandable, because the conventions for tags are not a= s
consistent as they should have been.

mu'o mi'e xorxes




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