Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OszFu-0006gm-DW; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 07:34:46 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf8956676gya.16 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 07:34:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received :mime-version:received:received:date:x-ip:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3XGsm3xJzj3GSLWc0NLVHC3/S8Ak5Uy3dT+Qa7HPlGQ=; b=PbM3zoWUZThQy1PecdkZ5XuFLDtUt8yaG1SjV5ZxbplLGdMI0jim0M1ByzyDH3g5iJ x8JgB+VNV5ASQaQ408CQd59I8ztVKbNFQLCqFNtCY5U5dDM8sGj/YcHsMd/0dG8v7Tf3 ADvfoCgs4ve2lqEiuTALMaMVQcoDbbHggbPO0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:x-ip:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=U+zv/C+aH33lcDeT2sq9axnK1D053eGKL67VpNFrBql5jqqy5rbHK4j42h5u023Wdl +SMn+nvdkfaLFZosfJA0a5AaqDLTZNsWtzbbQOzA5OqLWLNCOWrJ0YYzVH14zb/SsPCY QPQw8Pe2LcNtAczWqltN9gqNt/xj6TGVbR1Dw= Received: by 10.91.9.1 with SMTP id m1mr1019558agi.5.1283861071962; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:04:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.151.130.13 with SMTP id h13ls1866906ybn.2.p; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.50.4 with SMTP id x4mr697628ybx.12.1283861063630; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:04:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.180.39 with SMTP id h39mr303023anp.70.1283802605785; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by l20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Mon, 6 Sep 2010 12:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 12:50:05 -0700 (PDT) X-IP: 86.74.92.146 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100722 Firefox/3.6.8,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <59ca95ff-dab4-4899-97b6-d26dd2352de5@l20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] About reading speed of lojban text. Compared with natlang's text. From: "spermwhale.warrior" To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: guerrier.cachalot@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1467 Hi everyone ! I'm not fluent in lojban at all, but I like study its linguistic properties. I wondered something ... With such an high syllables's rate (I ask the rather fluent speakers/writers among us), comparing two short text, with typical constructs we use every day, such as : comparatives, conditionnals, vocatives, citations from someone else, simples logical links between otherwise independent sentences. One in lojban ... and one in english, or any langage you are the most fluent in. The two text written with the same look towards semantic details, except when (whatever is considered as) evidents inferences from context can be made. My question is the following : are you able, to read the lojban piece of text speedier than or as speedily as the chosen natlang piece of text ? Or not ? Does lojban's preciseness and accuracy towards semantic content of its constructs make it inherently long-winded ? ps: I am fluent only in French, and as you know French guys are the worst students in foreign languages of the EU. If you wince in reading me, please remember it ! Thank you, Mehdi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.