Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.193.19]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C9uem-0001Kx-T5 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:06:49 -0700 Received: from modem-154.nitrogen.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.6.154] helo=crh37) by cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1C9uek-0001bR-6Q for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 01:06:46 +0100 From: "Chris Howlett" To: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: gismu abbreviations? Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 01:07:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c4a038$31c826f0$9a06883e@crh37> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <537d06d00409210039425353c7@mail.gmail.com> X-archive-position: 791 X-Approved-By: chris@balcomie.freeserve.co.uk X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: chris@balcomie.freeserve.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1292 > -----Original Message----- > From: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org > [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org] On > Behalf Of Philip Newton > Sent: 21 September 2004 08:39 > To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org > Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: gismu abbreviations? > > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:47:29 +0100, Chris Howlett > wrote: > > Sorry, I didn't explain myself properly. I was referring to the > > .-pauses. Why do you need a '.' before the cmene after a COI cmavo, > > but not after la? > > The three words "doi", "la", and "lai" can be followed > immediately by a name without a pause. Name words have to > have a pause before them if any other word (including COI > cmavo or, say, "zo") comes before. > > A result of this is that names may not contain the sequences > "doi", "la", or "lai" (except when they can, but let's ignore > this for now) - this way, you can find out a name by looking > for a consonant followed by pause and going backwards until > you hit either one of those three syllables or another pause. Gotcha. That makes sense, thanks; although it is another "inconsistency" in the language. Ah well, so long as it's unambiguous I guess it achieves its aim. mi'e .kris.