Received: from mail-vw0-f198.google.com ([209.85.212.198]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NGLWg-0006n7-0N for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:56:02 -0800 Received: by vws36 with SMTP id 36so906935vws.28 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:55:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=JMIqyJRxalHE94Gl3J1yGXo0b/RMp7jkdhEEyqa5eoE=; b=MJiCVVGXvDqZbWewXgm1c3WZgLUyD9qJkb7mUc2HZCXKBCSGWsMqlMmcVj3NIQDipp Wup7LmMtueD8i4ljCb7ulSzq2YEAqLXxHNzERC3Nab0NFC8c7Cf6bNpGbhzJvJBLyUPu ni63F0IhA/rX3JnoCfzKGlb6bbdLURNvTi1TA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=KL4NKcDG3xvP3ChILZeqkhpWOxCjJ1rAnNy19Y7S5HK/m237KiNjvAMxSFoWHU3raA yJGklndwpCD+ivzreeGA1y+0scanHsr7qkpwQ7qQJaX4Zb0/yjO7UNzjkUoS7JOriDNC BwAiOccPYBI2yqb+2tfGFKcOQgA412GzmAo9c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.125.5 with SMTP id w5mr3049756vcr.30.1259884551068; Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:55:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> References: <702226df0912031545r6cd4c3b3q49f773eb306ad17d@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Stoneman Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:55:31 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Smart.fm and Lojban To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d34df31fdb930479dbbb4a Content-Length: 3825 --001636d34df31fdb930479dbbb4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On an unrelated note, will somebody please tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing list? On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones wrote: > I've decided to add the gismu as a lesson on Smart.fm, and I wanted to > discuss this with rodo. > > First, I'd like to invite anyone interested in helping to complete the > lesson to do so. I'm not certain how collaboration works, but I do know it's > possible. > > Second, I have a question as to formatting for the individual items, that > being, which entry method would be better for learners? > > 1) All-inclusive, i.e.: > > Item: > text: klama > translation: x1 travels to x2 from x3 via route x4 by means of x5 > > 2) Individual, i.e.: > > Item: > text: lo klama > translation: A traveller > > Item: > text: lo se klama > translation: A traveller's origin > > Item: > text: lo te klama > translation: A traveller's destination > > Item: > text: lo ve klama > translation: A route travelled > > Item: > text: lo xe klama > translation: A method of travelling > > 3) Both 1 and 2. > > Lastly, seeing as Smart.fm's English text-to-speech will incorrectly > pronounce Lojban words, and assuming that no language pronounces things > exactly as Lojban does, audio needs to be recorded for each entry so that > learners hear the words as they are meant to be heard. So, should each > contributor record the audio for the entries s/he contributes, or should one > person be selected to do all the audio? > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > --001636d34df31fdb930479dbbb4a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On an unrelated note, will somebody please tell me how to unsubscribe from = this mailing list?

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at= 5:45 PM, Jon "Top Hat" Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
I've decided = to add the gismu as a lesson on Smart.fm, and I wanted to discuss this with= rodo.

First, I'd like to invite anyone interested in helping to complete = the lesson to do so. I'm not certain how collaboration works, but I do = know it's possible.

Second, I have a question as to formatting for the individual items, th= at being, which entry method would be better for learners?

1) All-in= clusive, i.e.:

Item:
text: klama
translation: x1 travels to x2= from x3 via route x4 by means of x5

2) Individual, i.e.:

Item:
text: lo klama
translation: A t= raveller

Item:
text: lo se klama
translation: A traveller'= s origin

Item:
text: lo te klama
translation: A traveller's destination

Item:
text: lo ve klama
translation: A route travelled

Item:
text: lo xe klama
translation: A method of travelling

3) Both 1 and 2.

Lastly, = seeing as Smart.fm's English text-to-speech will incorrectly pronounce = Lojban words, and assuming that no language pronounces things exactly as Lo= jban does, audio needs to be recorded for each entry so that learners hear = the words as they are meant to be heard. So, should each contributor record= the audio for the entries s/he contributes, or should one person be select= ed to do all the audio?

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le = bende pe denpa bu





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