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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:04:04 +0000
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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] .imu'ibo
From: tijlan <jbotijlan@googlemail.com>
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On 21 March 2010 07:25, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been perusing the CLL looking for an answer but haven't found a very
> clear one so I'll ask here. =A0Does {broda .imu'ibo brode} mean "broda
> therefore (motivationally) brode" or "broda because of (motivationally)
> brode"?

The second one is meant. {mu'i} puts the two sentences in a
relationship such that {brode} is the antecedent (motivation) for
{broda}. It can be considered as an expanded form of {broda mu'i lo nu
brode}.

A {bo} between sentences is similar to a colon or semicolon in
natlangs; it tells you that a particular pair of sentences is tied in
stronger than with the other surrounding sentences.

 brodi .i [ broda .ibo brode ] .i brodo
 (Brodi. Broda; brode. Brodo.)

What {mu'i} does in addition to this is specify the kind of
relationship {bo} represents, by denoting the latter element just like
what it would do for what follows it in a normal usage of BAI. In this
case, {brode} gets denoted to be the x1 of {mukti}.

(And I think the reason why {mu'i} is placed before {bo} rather than
immediately before the bridi/selbri is so that it doesn't get caught
up with it into forming a tag selbri, {mu'i brode}, in which case
{mu'i}'s target would be other than {brode}. But there might be some
other reasons.)

>=A0Same question for PU. =A0Basically this use of {bo} confuses me in
> just about every way.

By the same token, {broda .ipubo brode} is an expanded form of {broda
pu lo nu brode}, with {pu} denoting {brode} to be that which {broda}
is before.


mu'o mi'e tijlan