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On Wednesday 14 April 2010 12:20:58 Luke Bergen wrote:
> That leads me to another question though.  One of the examples that
> the CLL used shows a scenario like {broda bai tu'a mi} which seemed
> funny to me.  After looking up {tu'a} I see:
>
>  tu'a      LAhE     the bridi implied by                      extracts
> a concrete sumti from an unspecified abstraction; equivalent to le
> nu/su'u [sumti] co'e
>
> Now, is the output of {tu'a ko'a} a sumti or a bridi?  Because the two
> things are not at all the same (BAI takes a sumti, not a bridi!).  It
> seems that {tu'a} produces a sumti (that's how everyone seems to use
> it anyawy), but if that's the case then "the bridi implied by" seems
> very misleading.

"tu'a ko'a" is a sumti which is an abstraction of an implied bridi containing 
ko'a. So you could say, as in one of my sigs, "ibabo mi'afra tu'a do", which 
expands to "ibabo mi'afra lo nu do co'e", "then (they) respond to your doing 
something by laughing".

Pierre
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