Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <302LGSwgJEEgqo3.y1oxqwksv.mywvytlkx-loqsxxo12qyyqvoq1y4z2.myw@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1O2DHv-0002UH-MR; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:50:40 -0700 Received: by pwi3 with SMTP id 3sf190808pwi.16 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:50:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:received:received :mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references:from:date:received :message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BgyHsjYnPMiAPw/jut5y1gu5D1xgNRlbhtErQyN8AQ8=; b=t9XjH8kg7Cvf69pelLsBQmVm+uNjc81w3IA8TfxLpk5nsfHC+XBfzdtZHtU6hJeHnN alpW+VSTiE/XN4QL3R5DWZSGsY5EqzZWpWQ3GswbNiSn2LyyCJezbZZw4ZYbeuZQff2M bvGDr8QoKpyrKhxlL1358HXXws9eb1ZqrMw5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XPF5PvNI1ZwfXCzKjQdd4JQC3aBjBekIQ7ecr8b1iXDHfj5Ve95F25rA7PFacXCmW1 NJoe2+pbgT223nGxrKod7JZi+YVZzLlIrwITQhY/dm3tm9NlWYohkhm8Jp452kLrRQpW yYK8HHnnhp7P6jl2Amt9ixDsZLpicIsQgcelY= Received: by 10.143.26.31 with SMTP id d31mr487951wfj.27.1271292627723; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:50:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.248.9 with SMTP id v9ls468951wfh.1.p; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.60.18 with SMTP id i18mr1371179wfa.23.1271292624990; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.60.18 with SMTP id i18mr1371178wfa.23.1271292624966; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si163485pzk.3.2010.04.14.17.50.23; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=69.17.117.5; Received: (qmail 20190 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2010 00:50:23 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 15 Apr 2010 00:50:23 -0000 Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O2DHh-0002U2-Mz for lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:50:22 -0700 Received: from mail-pv0-f181.google.com ([74.125.83.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O2DHZ-0002TH-MK for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:50:21 -0700 Received: by pvg16 with SMTP id 16so446897pvg.40 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:50:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.109.10 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:49:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BC655C6.1070403@lojban.org> References: <20100407053428.GA9239@digitalkingdom.org> <4BBC4403.70007@lojban.org> <4BC655C6.1070403@lojban.org> From: Oren Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 08:49:47 +0800 Received: by 10.142.2.17 with SMTP id 17mr3606987wfb.76.1271292607072; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: [lojban] [lojban-announcements] Request For Help; non-urgent research request to help Lojban. To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=nobody@digitalkingdom.org; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: get.oren@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/t/eb8a3ed85a2128d0 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/msg/b386c9eea2f8f5d2 Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1561 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 07:54, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG wrote: > Oren wrote: >> pe'u morji ko > I request, O Rememberer, you (imperatively) .... Ah, I meant { .e'o morji ko }, after giving up on figuring out something like "bump/nudge," in the sense of "don't forget about this thread." I guess I'm uncertain if { ju'i } can be used for this, or if it means more like 'listen up/pay attention/watch out' And I feel like using { re'i } might be applicable here (as in "ready for you to follow up"), but not in general. Perhaps a lone { ba'e } is the way to go? In chinese, a number of attitudinals have particle counterparts, for example =A7a corresponds with { .e'u }. However, one particle that Chinese has that lojban doesn't seem to is 'make note/don't forget.' In chinese it's =AE@/=BE=BE and it's used pretty commonly-- perhaps best characterized by caring parent-like expressions; i.e. "You'd better bundle up =AE@." I'd imagine that if we had a "reminder" cmavo, putting a nai on it would mean something like "forget about it/never mind," another pretty common phrase... how do we say these things in Lojbanistan? mi'e korbi .i co'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.