Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3XbfGSwgJECcJHW.RUHQJPDLO.FRPORMEDQ-EHJLQQHUVJRRJOHJURXSV.FRP@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1O2Iuz-0004gC-Jk; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:51:23 -0700 Received: by pvb32 with SMTP id 32sf250932pvb.16 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:51:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:received:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=uSE/MugNujrpxlJVyfkMDr2uPUTiRfnVsOkCExgsy4k=; b=x2fi8fqitqtWLU2E70aH5ALdKS0QdR6s5Ybzg8rXG1m+aHd03dDaLGtfvX8Q7vJFRK 9b2ND11bjk3WNc0TbgyAhyFFY+1gFDKXeYgNq57FQLX7UZ0NPow5KYCKFzSabkTnfSJa O+/UgQlb3q42KtvKINdWBxRFk+dgAj1FDXcfE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=4+SUtg8tXd1CyXcE63QlvMJ7coAxLSJjRYZxRopB3Y2RkMt2kOyfYnqQEDHSSV8+og ojY6Jl+yVtZCYGOznDjeg/HelbGO6gxQPVtn9Mcmre9iO3XIwqVZ0uN7e1ZNVygf4JZ7 va5I9LlaOiwvVg9An2X0EJsEU56KfGq+rFWdw= Received: by 10.141.125.16 with SMTP id c16mr861988rvn.18.1271314269865; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:51:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.141.187.12 with SMTP id o12ls820773rvp.0.p; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.124.2 with SMTP id b2mr1424329rvn.27.1271314269256; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.124.2 with SMTP id b2mr1424328rvn.27.1271314269221; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com (mail-pw0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si233148pzk.10.2010.04.14.23.51.08; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.41; Received: by pwi2 with SMTP id 2so845098pwi.14 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:51:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.109.10 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:50:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100407053428.GA9239@digitalkingdom.org> <4BBC4403.70007@lojban.org> <4BC655C6.1070403@lojban.org> From: Oren Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:50:48 +0800 Received: by 10.142.208.11 with SMTP id f11mr3814923wfg.125.1271314268128; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: [lojban] [lojban-announcements] Request For Help; non-urgent research request to help Lojban. To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=get.oren@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: get.oren@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/t/eb8a3ed85a2128d0 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/msg/9b67b0f070a85884 Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1190 je'e .i jimpe fa mi zo'e On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 13:55, Oleksii Melnyk wrote: > > > 2010/4/15 Oren >> >> @luke I recall reading somewhere that these three are equivalent: >> da de gismu >> da gismu de >> gismu da de > > First two are equivalent. Third is something called "observative", close to > "zo'e da de". To be the equivalent it should be " fa da > de". > > -- > mu'o mi'e lex > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.