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2010/4/15 Oren <get.oren@gmail.com>

> What I want to say, however, is approximately:
>
> "Recall, I'm going." or "Remember, I'm going." or, "I'm going, ya know!"
> ...meaning I'm reminding you that I'm going. It's important that you
>

Isn't that what the observatives are for? =ABnu mi klama=BB is that, "look,=
 [the
event of] me coming" (=B1tense/aspect/whatever).


> this. "Forget about it/ never mind."
>

"never mind" is almost as long as ".i ko tolju'i" (for example), so, why ne=
w
cmavo?

--=20
mu'o mi'e lex

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/4/15 Oren <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:get.oren@gmail.com">get.oren@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204=
, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
What I want to say, however, is approximately:<br>
<br>
&quot;Recall, I&#39;m going.&quot; or &quot;Remember, I&#39;m going.&quot; =
or, &quot;I&#39;m going, ya know!&quot;<br>
...meaning I&#39;m reminding you that I&#39;m going. It&#39;s important tha=
t you<br></blockquote><div><br>Isn&#39;t that what the observatives are for=
? =ABnu mi klama=BB is that, &quot;look, [the event of] me coming&quot; (=
=B1tense/aspect/whatever).<br>
</div><div>=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-l=
eft: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:=
 1ex;">
this. &quot;Forget about it/ never mind.&quot;<br></blockquote><div><br>&qu=
ot;never mind&quot; is almost as long as &quot;.i ko tolju&#39;i&quot; (for=
 example), so, why new cmavo? <br clear=3D"all"></div></div><br>-- <br>mu&#=
39;o mi&#39;e lex<br>

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