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 Content preview:  On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 20:14, Oleksii Melnyk <lamelnyk@gmail.com>
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On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 20:14, Oleksii Melnyk <lamelnyk@gmail.com> wrote:
> the fact of By communicates something to Cy already means, that By wants =
Cy
> to "make note".

I see what you're saying, when we assume that a precondition of
expressing something is that there be an audience who you intend to
'make note.'

I guess what I have in mind is something difficult to express in
English. In Chinese there are a slew of common everyday verbs
{=B6=A3=A1=A2=B6=A3=D6=F6=A1=A2=D6=F6=B8=C0=A1=A2=B4=F2=B7=A2} and particle=
s {=C5=B6=A1=A2=E0=DE=A1=A2=B9=FE} that denote/mark an attitude of
exhortation or reminder, and I don't know how to express this
distinctly in lojban, which is unsettling to me.

English does have 'never mind' which I feel is a complimentary sort of
sentiment (which also has many common Chinese realizations:
=CB=E3=C1=CB=A1=A2=B0=D5=C1=CB=A1=A2=C3=BB=B9=D8=CF=B5=A1=A2=B2=BB=D2=AA=BD=
=F4=A1=A2=B2=BB=D3=C3=B9=DC=A1=A2=B1=F0=B0=AD=CA=C2. So to continue this di=
alectic inquiry, are
there any other ways other than { ju'inai } which people use to
express 'never mind?' By the way, it seems polysemous or nonstandard
to { ju'inai } for that, according to the definitions on the official
lists.

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