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 Content preview:  oh, one more fun chinese way of saying 'forget about it/never
    mind:' 别多想了 don't many think change-particle "stop thinking so much"
   2010/4/15 Oren <get.oren@gmail.com>: > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 20:14, Oleksii
    Melnyk <lamelnyk@gmail.com> wrote: >> the fact of By communicates something
    to Cy already means, that By wants Cy >> to "make note". > > I see what you're
    saying, when we assume that a precondition of > expressing something is that
    there be an audience who you intend to > 'make note.' > > I guess what I
   have in mind is something difficult to express in > English. In Chinese there
    are a slew of common everyday verbs > {叮、叮嘱、嘱咐、打发} and particles
    {哦、噢、哈} that denote/mark an attitude of > exhortation or reminder, and
    I don't know how to express this > distinctly in lojban, which is unsettling
    to me. > > English does have 'never mind' which I feel is a complimentary
    sort of > sentiment (which also has many common Chinese realizations: > 算了、罢了、没关系、不要紧、不用管、别碍事.
    So to continue this dialectic inquiry, are > there any other ways other than
    { ju'inai } which people use to > express 'never mind?' By the way, it seems
    polysemous or nonstandard > to { ju'inai } for that, according to the definitions
    on the official > lists. > [...] 
 
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oh, one more fun chinese way of saying 'forget about it/never mind:'

=B1=F0=B6=E0=CF=EB=C1=CB
don't many think change-particle
"stop thinking so much"

2010/4/15 Oren <get.oren@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 20:14, Oleksii Melnyk <lamelnyk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> the fact of By communicates something to Cy already means, that By wants=
 Cy
>> to "make note".
>
> I see what you're saying, when we assume that a precondition of
> expressing something is that there be an audience who you intend to
> 'make note.'
>
> I guess what I have in mind is something difficult to express in
> English. In Chinese there are a slew of common everyday verbs
> {=B6=A3=A1=A2=B6=A3=D6=F6=A1=A2=D6=F6=B8=C0=A1=A2=B4=F2=B7=A2} and partic=
les {=C5=B6=A1=A2=E0=DE=A1=A2=B9=FE} that denote/mark an attitude of
> exhortation or reminder, and I don't know how to express this
> distinctly in lojban, which is unsettling to me.
>
> English does have 'never mind' which I feel is a complimentary sort of
> sentiment (which also has many common Chinese realizations:
> =CB=E3=C1=CB=A1=A2=B0=D5=C1=CB=A1=A2=C3=BB=B9=D8=CF=B5=A1=A2=B2=BB=D2=AA=
=BD=F4=A1=A2=B2=BB=D3=C3=B9=DC=A1=A2=B1=F0=B0=AD=CA=C2. So to continue this=
 dialectic inquiry, are
> there any other ways other than { ju'inai } which people use to
> express 'never mind?' By the way, it seems polysemous or nonstandard
> to { ju'inai } for that, according to the definitions on the official
> lists.
>

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