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From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/t/eb8a3ed85a2128d0 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/msg/ed0dc16d3747d41f Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65a09f86a9f9a048446ad9c Content-Length: 6818 --0016e65a09f86a9f9a048446ad9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Oren wrote: > @luke I recall reading somewhere that these three are equivalent: > > da de gismu > da gismu de > gismu da de > No. {gismu da de} is equivalent to {zo'e gismu da de}. To be equivalent to {da de gismu} and {da gismu de}, it would have to be {gismu fa da de}. > > @lex I believe you're thinking of { se morji } > > @rodo, my question still remains: > > Am I missing something or do we not have cmavo for 'make note/recall/don't > forget' and 'forget about it/never mind?' > > co'o mi'e korbi > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 13:03, Oleksii Melnyk wrote: > >> >> >> 2010/4/15 Luke Bergen >> >> hmm, wouldn't {.e'o morji ko} be "[request] be remembered"? >>> >> >> IMO it means "be the memories". 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On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Oren <= span dir=3D"ltr"><get.oren@gmail.c= om> wrote:
@luke I recall reading somewhere that these three are equi= valent:

da de gismu
da gismu de
gismu da de

No. {gismu da de} is equivalent to {zo'e gismu da de}. To= be equivalent to {da de gismu} and {da gismu de}, it would have to be {gis= mu fa da de}.

@lex I believe you're thinking of { se morji = }

@rodo, my question still remains:=A0

Am I missing something or do we not have cmavo for 'make note/recall/= don't forget' and 'forget about it/never mind?'

co'o mi'e korbi

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 13:03,= Oleksii Melnyk <lamelnyk@gmail.com> wrote:


2010/4/15 Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>=

hmm, wouldn't {.e'o morji ko} be "[request] be remembered"= ;?

IMO it means "be the = memories". Looks like "ko morsi":)

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mu'o mi= 'e lex

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