Received: from mail-qy0-f162.google.com ([209.85.221.162]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O3i7O-00006T-Qs; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:58:00 -0700 Received: by qyk34 with SMTP id 34sf8214054qyk.21 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:57:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=Q1gKDD9j1tw2hPosytB/hR1Uu75X4XtqqZa4miahaF4=; b=KziQk9j61fVixpGr98be8SkPPt6OO7UU2r5wqIcnolBH0xFTuBglb0AgItZT296M9f pZQ+qA7DtR1M1yUghvBaDp0fYQ4GOPlUrAye+fzzIdEL027UJ+wYwmLCLw3/LpE9vnJo 4/XqvgckaPJRYHc3ExPRCn8g3EWAFc1Fbm00A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; b=ajLwOh815E0hx70MsvVbsdALMRdFRDE2IP2UBmiVGnilcg23cfiA4hb/UyBSNkFpK3 G1zIdl/l5ZwSHUs3ePb1Vd0zYJLj+1NNf0d4knttU+5DOlAuqxJP0NI5tcyMhg7hnatC cnIAkp4LrOogygEMEZFzYY5gduIZM/e/VEY+c= Received: by 10.229.111.197 with SMTP id t5mr262595qcp.21.1271649465632; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:57:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.210.31 with SMTP id gi31ls8243346qcb.0.p; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.220.4 with SMTP id hw4mr472114qcb.18.1271649464671; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.220.4 with SMTP id hw4mr472113qcb.18.1271649464641; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si970597qyk.8.2010.04.18.20.57.44; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nT04y92fg8rckuCBF7gKRMhlYwdqGk6tKF+UOdl7fjk= c=1 sm=0 a=dAtYuaMxXKwA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=2sNO4dhPC-GRQZOCydgA:9 a=eU4yI5vY-O-wNRwzStOKjW4qou8A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:56132] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 46/0C-28028-7B4DBCB4; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 03:57:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id E667EA3EF for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:57:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] About {mi cu facki di'e} Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:57:36 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <09da87a4-5d57-45d1-8de6-489ad02aea24@z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201004182357.39927.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 1137 On Sunday 18 April 2010 21:11:10 David Gowers wrote: > Yes; I would report that they believed they had discovered X, > eg > > {la djan. krici lo du'u facki lo du'u pelxu lo najnimre} > > (perhaps John is colorblind yet acts as if he is not) Or perhaps he found a yellow orange (a mutant). Btw, that should be "lo du'u se pelxu lo najnimre" or "lo du'u lo najnimre cu pelxu" autc. "pelxu" is intransitive. > No predicate can be 100% false or true, because we can never have > enough data to reach 100% certainty, only a maximum of N/(N+1) > certainty where N is the number of data points so far (which > presumably all were perfectly predicted). What about "lo du'u li re su'i re du li vo"? mu'omi'e .pier. -- Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.