Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O40W9-0003Th-0t; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:36:45 -0700 Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5sf4385017gyd.16 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:36:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=sGjIguwGlcXjRVpvDMl6jMqbwGPX5iFUsR46MdG957M=; b=uIh9FBkdYkjnaSkCLuoQP8yl9GDRrFMlREVAM84dodXqLTsQ4A217fpG3IoArIRCie or+L6xp06tcV/5JuNk9iDWfxAdOna/50lmh7YId53Whre1O3SNmCMNv0Fsnf5cRvpKjV EILTiKt/a/C3Aleg/ehaGxS14fyRKOgXb4u/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=k4L0Nq4FIKh6utp62v8M5MMDmF8NkD/lgfJOQ+VtkAOIwMjyw3Hj/9IvhJD2kDieyL qLh7FKIOi2lDqHT7fWEJg/jY7LEyOASKFocO2Dndtnhm/XkztmlInY6EU4kZHoUH2VPd 7Cz3S7lS+fcZn+uUkgsufohZYa4SWKA5Qx1i0= Received: by 10.150.242.4 with SMTP id p4mr503391ybh.48.1271720191620; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:36:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.145.21 with SMTP id x21ls12410552ann.3.p; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.157.32 with SMTP id j32mr4295051ano.4.1271720191043; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.157.32 with SMTP id j32mr4295050ano.4.1271720190989; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f202.google.com (mail-yx0-f202.google.com [209.85.210.202]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id q40si8592712anh.1.2010.04.19.16.36.29; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.202 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.202; Received: by mail-yx0-f202.google.com with SMTP id 40so958454yxe.28 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:36:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.91.20 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:36:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201004190742.40204.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <09da87a4-5d57-45d1-8de6-489ad02aea24@z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <201004182357.39927.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201004190742.40204.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:36:26 -0400 Received: by 10.101.213.12 with SMTP id p12mr14360631anq.246.1271720186849; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] About {mi cu facki di'e} From: MorphemeAddict To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.202 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=005045016f7bfdc3ad04849f6d71 Content-Length: 3821 --005045016f7bfdc3ad04849f6d71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I see. One more reason to junk Lojban and start fresh. Or modify the silly sound restrictions. stevo On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2010 01:37:24 MorphemeAddict wrote: > > And it should be "najynimre", eh? > > "cn" and "jm" and "cm" are valid initial pairs, but "jn" is not. So > "jnimre" > is not a lujvo, so you don't have to add "y" to "najnimre" to avoid a > tosmabru. "cr" but not "jr" is also a valid initial. > > Pierre > -- > .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do > .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga > .icu'u la ma'atman. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --005045016f7bfdc3ad04849f6d71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I see. One more reason to junk Lojban and start fresh. Or modify the s= illy sound restrictions.
=A0
stevo

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.n= u> wrote:
On Monday 19 April 2010 01:37:24 MorphemeAddict wrote:> And it should be "najynimre", eh?

"cn&quo= t; and "jm" and "cm" are valid initial pairs, but "= ;jn" is not. So "jnimre"
is not a lujvo, so you don't have to add "y" to "najnimr= e" to avoid a
tosmabru. "cr" but not "jr" is al= so a valid initial.

Pierre
--
.i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afr= a tu'a do
.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
.icu'u la ma'atman.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to t= he Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group.
To post to this gro= up, send email to lojb= an-beginners@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://gr= oups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.
--005045016f7bfdc3ad04849f6d71--