Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6TQd-0005KC-C4; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:53:19 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf68735wwe.16 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:53:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:received:received:received :received:mime-version:received:sender:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jB+RCQAkR4QWfxHLoqgWDsDiTdonc4Uvpjmk1LPXXwo=; b=dzKbTNzYl0w3qq74JB2c4rpcCs2C2qEe65FArf+q4GooX8iUDjCMvnO+Uumvz1w2OZ Xn/onsz4M/ENg+56djANVm8/MuU74lrlhEHW6QlL2EjVk0Nvc3kA4UURQL5l5Hf/Gg1A fEs6NfyJA/fsIO2Apo/KIXWBABmdZNwmieslk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=spNWr8ylcn0SIIMO2Q2Cgazn8qc1ha4gyRFpjhgv4SHz2QY7iCzsDNQDDYZyynIjE5 QRsc852xoh+eYezyiIb5OS6e4anSWgC6CHNNvk0mCJK4yBXFsxLEHvEbd8TCsQA6LOMY Et5VavKvxAJokU1FSMHrR2syZLwCpKbYSQ9TU= Received: by 10.223.63.20 with SMTP id z20mr1301073fah.7.1272307978174; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:52:58 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.87.74.30 with SMTP id b30ls13724090fgl.3.p; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.87.47.21 with SMTP id z21mr93255fgj.7.1272307975055; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.83.9 with SMTP id g9mr805885rvb.5.1272307487881; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.83.9 with SMTP id g9mr805884rvb.5.1272307487843; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si741989pzk.14.2010.04.26.11.44.46; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.7 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=69.17.117.7; Received: (qmail 12804 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2010 18:44:46 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Apr 2010 18:44:46 -0000 Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6TIT-0004re-EP for lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:44:45 -0700 Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com ([209.85.212.53]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6TIN-0004q8-Op for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:44:45 -0700 Received: by vws17 with SMTP id 17so30826vws.40 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:44:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.227.149 with SMTP id ja21mr5406046qcb.74.1272307472939; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.111.102 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:44:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] enzima & encima etc. From: tijlan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.7 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=nobody@digitalkingdom.org; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: pascal.akihiko@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362848baf83ca60485282a6e Content-Length: 2196 --0016362848baf83ca60485282a6e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If I were to Lojbanize Spanish "enzima" and "encima", should I use the same lerfu for the same sound "z" and "c", resulting in the same spelling? If so= , which lerfu? Also, should the Lojbanization of Russian sounds reflect its velarization such as in "e" and "=D1", for the purpose of experimental gismu etymology? mu'o mi'e tijlan --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --0016362848baf83ca60485282a6e Content-Type: text/html; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If I were to Lojbanize Spanish "enzima" and "encima", s= hould I use the same lerfu for the same sound "z" and "c&quo= t;, resulting in the same spelling? If so, which lerfu?

Also, should= the Lojbanization of Russian sounds reflect its velarization such as in &q= uot;e" and "=D1", for the purpose of experimental gismu etym= ology?

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