Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O8OXq-00034n-J5; Sat, 01 May 2010 19:04:40 -0700 Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13sf780519wwb.16 for ; Sat, 01 May 2010 19:04:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=/VUCGiZxr2+6PinAmAkGw+pcQeKNuMuhPMdU/8qSmT8=; b=US1BZqGAwTYXVx8jL6GmIH2lrbDbYy58IcYiYmZAz2d/46iIHqGZ/8b53BBUZOziW+ FfTA0b6UOh/5csonGPIpEK+uN5UVlRsUYwimyTGraHuyVX25hnUpaSp15KU3OoqAiJ7u BcHId2DM0zsQVjdpMnX60131QgumlyHufFpuU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ISzZFUg5krTre5c7VTWpN5eMzXvnbDAtpn+JIRcZfKgpkvMw8amQdpP5nOy7bFNgsg WYYB7rojL4jXpZcE5+sy/Bq3EF9lhy6MnPJNgW2JRyX67A1y4hO19KF+Gu7Qvz26gQfb gQiK31kBitKXkdJwnSK5udAUdsgrYi9HFWZ2A= Received: by 10.223.4.136 with SMTP id 8mr3205230far.10.1272765864927; Sat, 01 May 2010 19:04:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.24.105 with SMTP id w83ls23138383wew.1.p; Sat, 01 May 2010 19:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.85.129 with SMTP id u1mr1273265wee.9.1272765863809; Sat, 01 May 2010 19:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.85.129 with SMTP id u1mr1273264wee.9.1272765863768; Sat, 01 May 2010 19:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f177.google.com (mail-wy0-f177.google.com [74.125.82.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id h17si4167716wbh.5.2010.05.01.19.04.22; Sat, 01 May 2010 19:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.177; Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so696421wyg.36 for ; Sat, 01 May 2010 19:04:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.181.8 with SMTP id k8mr835451wem.41.1272765862523; Sat, 01 May 2010 19:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.12.208 with HTTP; Sat, 1 May 2010 19:04:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2035EAA2-54C5-4259-BC7C-497A1CA2A4F5@mac.com> Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 20:04:22 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Proposed change to smart.fm items From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f1e2641e3320048592e5fd Content-Length: 6248 --001485f1e2641e3320048592e5fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I believe that you'll need the lojban_upload users password in order to actually do the editing. If so, contact either myself or Robin directly to get it. On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Fine by me. I have no problems with any of your suggestions, except maybe > the "???" one. :) > > > On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Kevin Reid wrote: > >> I propose to change the English text for the following gismu place items >> in the "Lojban gismu" smart.fm goal as follows: >> >> lo se djica something desired => a state desired >> >> To emphasize that lo se djica is not a physical object. >> >> >> lo te troci a method of trial => a method tried >> >> The existing wording sounds like "a method of testing", not >> "the way we tried to do it". >> >> >> lo se troci something tried => ??? >> >> This seems misleading in that it sounds like "I tried a new food" >> or similar. "something tried for" would be better, but I don't quite >> like it. >> >> >> lo te jimpe a subject of something understood => >> a subject understood about >> >> Trying to make the relation clearer. >> >> >> Please let me know if you disapprove of these changes. >> >> -- >> Kevin Reid >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --001485f1e2641e3320048592e5fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe that you'll need the lojban_upload users password in order to= actually do the editing. If so, contact either myself or Robin directly to= get it.

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:02 PM, = Jonathan Jones <e= yeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Fine by me. I hav= e no problems with any of your suggestions, except maybe the "???"= ; one. :)


On Sat, May= 1, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Kevin Reid <kpreid@mac.com> wrote:
I propose to chan= ge the English text for the following gismu place items in the "Lojban= gismu" smart.fm goa= l as follows:

=A0lo se djica =A0 something desired =3D> a state desired

=A0 =A0To emphasize that lo se djica is not a physical object.


=A0lo te troci =A0 a method of trial =3D> a method tried

=A0 =A0The existing wording sounds like "a method of testing", n= ot
=A0 =A0"the way we tried to do it".


=A0lo se troci =A0 something tried =3D> ???

=A0 =A0This seems misleading in that it sounds like "I tried a new fo= od"
=A0 =A0or similar. "something tried for" would be better, but I = don't quite
=A0 =A0like it.


=A0lo te jimpe =A0 a subject of something understood =3D>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0a subject understood about

=A0 =A0Trying to make the relation clearer.


Please let me know if you disapprove of these changes.

--
Kevin Reid =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0<http://swit= chb.org/kpreid/>




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