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On 5 May 2010 20:31, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

> hmm, would it be unreasonable for the x2 of nelci/djica to be an
> event/property BUT in the case where an object (ko'a) is supplied it is
> assumed to be {tu'a ko'a}?


When it is the case that

 mi nelci lo nu ko'a xendo ko'e

, I think it would not be unreasonble to say any of

 mi nelci ko'a
 mi nelci ko'e
 mi nelci ko'a .e ko'e

, in the sense that both ko'a and ko'e can be conceived like this:

 ko'a = lo nu da du ko'a gi'e xendo ko'e
 ko'e = lo nu da du ko'e gi'e se xendo ko'a

, which are equivalent to the x2 of the starting premise, {lo nu ko'a xendo
ko'e}. When asked {do nelci ma po'u tu'a ko'a} to expand the expression, you
would just have to say {lo nu ko'a xendo ko'e} or {lo nu da du ko'a gi'e
xendo ko'e}.

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