Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OBsIA-0005wC-A2; Tue, 11 May 2010 09:26:52 -0700 Received: by wyb36 with SMTP id 36sf2303210wyb.16 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 09:26:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:x-virus-scanned:received:received :message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZQaYDXKJgGvjJSYv8pzH9Urmp2WXiNw9HbNYNZxmFJE=; b=FUK5MCyl8e2tJ4UAc1Hcebzp7n9fsNYpJ5hZt8YDdUIPj1XJv/XBMJAhPrGlrawvk+ 36dpZiXHfF7AyF+4Eqmr7QlE3HrzLDykzyLtGlX3ldXzbLh+z6pOR8w5GAjmDok9eYX3 labH8B3oqun5umw19jQFuMVLQokusau27ZeCc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-virus-scanned:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=rgkx6Fa73EmSOVYHZblHSNpDZ3XED2hBb6R7E0EBzQOLFmkhKplcnM5pKdH2LMRtd1 nTHz1P9Zmu8oyW7jTNiMkX0xsxo7to8KwigUjRSMMjaoCH/WO1I/0g5ubGLi6xr+0yzC n0hSwjHBZPzxjAqehWGkQc1IeE/PtnfdEUjmY= Received: by 10.223.13.196 with SMTP id d4mr668865faa.23.1273595196261; Tue, 11 May 2010 09:26:36 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.213.59.131 with SMTP id l3ls5219668ebh.1.p; Tue, 11 May 2010 09:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.42.6 with SMTP id q6mr781045ebe.25.1273595194751; Tue, 11 May 2010 09:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.42.6 with SMTP id q6mr781044ebe.25.1273595194719; Tue, 11 May 2010 09:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.wouldyoubuythis.net (mail.wybt.net [195.191.196.3]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 11si452750ewy.9.2010.05.11.09.26.33; Tue, 11 May 2010 09:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 195.191.196.3 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de) client-ip=195.191.196.3; Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wouldyoubuythis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6A248684 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 18:25:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.wybt.net Received: from mail.wouldyoubuythis.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.wybt.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nVT7hdjYqWv2 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 18:25:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:6f8:1c57:24:216:eaff:feb3:4a04] (unknown [IPv6:2001:6f8:1c57:24:216:eaff:feb3:4a04]) by mail.wouldyoubuythis.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8574D48671 for ; Tue, 11 May 2010 18:25:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BE98536.3040701@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 18:26:30 +0200 From: Timo Paulssen User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] sei vs to References: <4BE97DBB.4060404@perpetuum-immobile.de> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 195.191.196.3 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de) smtp.mail=timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de X-Original-Sender: timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1208 Luke Bergen wrote: > That brings up a question for me. In that sentence that you gave tijlan, > what about the text tells us that the {fi lo cukta...} applies to the > {prali} and not to the {pensi}? Does {sei} take a bridi, a selbri, or > something else? What terminates a {sei} or is the idea of terminating {s= ei} > as absurd as terminating {zo}? I've perused the CLL but {sei} isn't > documented very well there from what I have found. > =20 The grammar of the bridi following =93sei=94 has an unusual limitation: the sumti must either all precede the selbri, or must be glued into the selbri with =93be=94 and =93bei=94: 12.5) la frank. prami sei gleki be fa la suzn. la djein. Frank loves (Susan is happy) Jane. This restriction allows the terminator cmavo =93se'u=94 to almost always be elided. mu'o mi'e timos --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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