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That is an interesting limitation.  So in what circumstances would you ever
*need* the terminator {se'u}?

So, {lu la djan cu citka sei la djein fi la djim cusku le plise li'u} would
become "john eats, said jane to jim, the apple"?

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Timo Paulssen <
timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote:

> Luke Bergen wrote:
> > That brings up a question for me.  In that sentence that you gave tijla=
n,
> > what about the text tells us that the {fi lo cukta...} applies to the
> > {prali} and not to the {pensi}?  Does {sei} take a bridi, a selbri, or
> > something else?  What terminates a {sei} or is the idea of terminating
> {sei}
> > as absurd as terminating {zo}?  I've perused the CLL but {sei} isn't
> > documented very well there from what I have found.
> >
> The grammar of the bridi following =93sei=94 has an unusual limitation: t=
he
> sumti must either all precede the selbri, or must be glued into the
> selbri with =93be=94 and =93bei=94:
> 12.5)  la frank. prami sei gleki be fa la suzn. la djein.
>       Frank loves (Susan is happy) Jane.
> This restriction allows the terminator cmavo =93se'u=94 to almost always =
be
> elided.
>
> mu'o mi'e timos
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That is an interesting limitation. =A0So in what=A0circumstances=A0would yo=
u ever <i>need</i>=A0the terminator {se&#39;u}?<div><br></div><div>So, {lu =
la djan cu citka sei la djein fi la djim cusku le plise li&#39;u} would bec=
ome &quot;john eats, said jane to jim, the apple&quot;?<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Timo Pauls=
sen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de=
">timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">Luke Bergen wrote:<br>
&gt; That brings up a question for me. =A0In that sentence that you gave ti=
jlan,<br>
&gt; what about the text tells us that the {fi lo cukta...} applies to the<=
br>
&gt; {prali} and not to the {pensi}? =A0Does {sei} take a bridi, a selbri, =
or<br>
&gt; something else? =A0What terminates a {sei} or is the idea of terminati=
ng {sei}<br>
&gt; as absurd as terminating {zo}? =A0I&#39;ve perused the CLL but {sei} i=
sn&#39;t<br>
&gt; documented very well there from what I have found.<br>
&gt;<br>
</div>The grammar of the bridi following =93sei=94 has an unusual limitatio=
n: the<br>
sumti must either all precede the selbri, or must be glued into the<br>
selbri with =93be=94 and =93bei=94:<br>
12.5) =A0la frank. prami sei gleki be fa la suzn. la djein.<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 Frank loves (Susan is happy) Jane.<br>
This restriction allows the terminator cmavo =93se&#39;u=94 to almost alway=
s be<br>
elided.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e timos<br>
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