Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OLLpk-0008Hn-U7; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:48:47 -0700 Received: by gwj21 with SMTP id 21sf4423193gwj.16 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:48:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ia9jDcxbgTepuucHhYiCUN5FqpiyAEn3Gs0MnrV7gqY=; b=Zb8nQKh76ixDusOyzFQLqGP7aAjA8qSHygnBVmml47DnsE7SSdrUY+mLl8QFu/YKPK 6G+Lf53hma+IFvCUPbxaOVwaaYuZxMUmIw5mthGHyrMtWYp7saACfYA4pMQjCKEJPKGb TQXXI/EdTR6vUm6kk8GkZ6a5X7bM7TNLBTcjY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=fWliWxIJHyhOM6Tqqtlgqz+DYN9sywAbnz3RLLNqYV15yXkMjhbdy0fRwtoQbmek1T MMvre9gXWmEx1M8LbT+20MfEV1zpjqHancWokQeM+bN651VEjCE6AiWLSqAW3P3XOjb4 /OpzHTKFsNF2OkrrSQKi7Cr4vgqK0RyhWg5C4= Received: by 10.101.143.22 with SMTP id v22mr568224ann.69.1275853706712; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:48:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.160.35 with SMTP id m35ls2750397ano.2.p; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:48:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.179.36 with SMTP id g36mr578426anp.0.1275853705956; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:48:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 92.231.126.7 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; de) Presto/2.2.15 Version/10.10,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojbanic coffee mug From: lubekano3 To: Lojban Beginners Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1881 On 6 Jun., 21:13, Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:20 PM, lubekano3 wrote: > > > =A0 Well, that says that the coffee cup itself is black and hot and tas= ty. > > I'd suggest instead getting rid of the "le" and putting an ".i" =A0before > xekri. I think I understand the need for an ".i". (I guess I imagined 'title' and 'subtitle' as two utterances, which is probably not a good idea.) Why, on the other hand, would one drop the "le"? I thought it necessary to make clear that this is just 'a' coffee mug, not coffee mugs in general. > And, just for interest, I couldn't yet figure out how to say "a mug of > > > black and hot and tasty coffee" ... > > =A0 "kabri lo xekri je glare je kukte ckafi" works fine. =A0Granted, it s= ays > it's a cup FOR that, not necessarily having that at the moment (which wou= ld > be "lo kabri cu vasru lo xekri je glare je kukte ckafi"), but context sho= uld > make it understand.. after all, it doesn't always contain the coffee, doe= s > it? Right. Thank you. (-: > > (Also, is there a better way to > > say "coffee mug" in the given context? Because "fb" is an > > aesthetically unfortunate letter combination.) > > =A0What fb is there in kafkabri? And why is it unfortunate, aesthetically= ? > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa I'm sorry, I meant "fk", of course. The top of the f tends to run into the stem of the k when printed, and I probably won't dare to use/ create a ligature. -- lubekano --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.