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ahh, see I was going for "the ieskos cup.  contains black hot and tasty"
since the main text implies that we're talking about the cup.

Wait, so if I say {mi citka lo plise ne'i lo zdani} I am saying that "I eat
an apple inside the house".  So then if I say "lo kabri ne'i lo xekri" I'm
saying "the cup {co'e}s inside the black".  But I want to say "the cup
{co'e}'s within which is the black".  It seems like that would be {sene'i}
not {ne'i}.

2010/6/9 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>

> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> > subtitle:    sene'i xekri je glare je kukte
> > (though I'm not sure if {sene'i} is really valid).
>
> Not with the current grammar, no, although it would be valid with:
> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Internal+grammar+of+tags
>
> But in any case, here I would expect "ne'i" not "sene'i". The black
> and hot and tasty is inside (someting), not containing (something).
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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ahh, see I was going for &quot;the ieskos cup. =A0contains black hot and ta=
sty&quot; since the main text implies that we&#39;re talking about the cup.=
<div><br><div>Wait, so if I say {mi citka lo plise ne&#39;i lo zdani} I am =
saying that &quot;I eat an apple inside the house&quot;. =A0So then if I sa=
y &quot;lo kabri ne&#39;i lo xekri&quot; I&#39;m saying &quot;the cup {co&#=
39;e}s inside the black&quot;. =A0But I want to say &quot;the cup {co&#39;e=
}&#39;s within which is the black&quot;. =A0It seems like that would be {se=
ne&#39;i} not {ne&#39;i}.</div>
<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/6/9 Jorge Llamb=EDas <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Luke Bergen &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:lukeabergen@gmail.com">lukeabergen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; subtitle: =A0 =A0sene&#39;i xekri je glare je kukte<br>
&gt; (though I&#39;m not sure if {sene&#39;i} is really valid).<br>
<br>
</div>Not with the current grammar, no, although it would be valid with:<br=
>
<a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Internal+grammar+of+tags" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Internal+grammar+of+tags</a><br>
<br>
But in any case, here I would expect &quot;ne&#39;i&quot; not &quot;sene&#3=
9;i&quot;. The black<br>
and hot and tasty is inside (someting), not containing (something).<br>
<br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes<br>
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