Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OOvIn-0003TT-Ou; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:17:30 -0700 Received: by gwaa12 with SMTP id a12sf10757541gwa.16 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:17:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xOpT3h+LoPLhVMKK2Tn/+B1O81gzYY0M3Rta9QPnLdI=; b=ZyKdYqSs4LGqqwOWDAQg0J0uisqKOB7pei3lJq9vgJ/LJSLxV8kePpHe+Mn1JjKvmR s44gU+QmOdHndI41ptp6uqumDrmn9pQKIlEOp7Ttd9yLKlYhNoSH4fI2+229RyXi7d0e 4818TwyWBrdFppfLeDHa2i+q34e65c7wBr5Eg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Gtw2Mkt4ApQUkHXLDeP/Igb939ZSyQqM7dmjkqn3gsxeLYOx/08ozy8aDXnK8nhIIN H/b3inrZu4JYPtSqsfbeVAd3ZW9zoLX96c1871MdOMWNrjurAb2OtgZ4XphP9NL4x0mM VTC4bA8o5QG0Rcox0F3bX5pQbaqpv+hjsy+kM= Received: by 10.101.179.38 with SMTP id g38mr613767anp.14.1276705032953; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:17:12 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.139.8 with SMTP id r8ls163533ann.7.p; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.160.23 with SMTP id m23mr2906737ano.53.1276705032132; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.160.23 with SMTP id m23mr2906734ano.53.1276705032073; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f169.google.com (mail-gy0-f169.google.com [209.85.160.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z6si5443050ank.0.2010.06.16.09.17.11; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.169; Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so4360797gyg.28 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:17:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.221.142 with SMTP id ic14mr3770475qcb.207.1276705021675; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.9.194 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:16:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6ce8847c-82f8-4e57-b750-2dfb8b003d4f@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> References: <6ce8847c-82f8-4e57-b750-2dfb8b003d4f@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:16:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojbanic coffee mug From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362835fa4faf0b0489280d0e Content-Length: 3771 --0016362835fa4faf0b0489280d0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 With a sumti you have no issue: you can just use pe or (depending on context) one of its friends, giving for example: le kafkabri pe la .ieskos. It's with a bridi that things are a little hairy. mu'o mi'e latros. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:35 AM, lubekano3 wrote: > Hm. I _think_ I understand the 'fi'o' construction. Nice, but not very > concise. (-: Would there be there a shorter way of expressing the > (after all not too uncommon ...) concept of "somebody's coffee mug"? > Or would "colloquial lojban", as you will, go the other way round ... > ''le kafkabri se ponse la .ieskos."? > > ---lubekano > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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le kafkabri pe la .ieskos.
It's with a bridi that things are a little hairy.

mu'= o mi'e latros.

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:35 AM, lubekano3 = <kevinb.mller= @yahoo.de> wrote:
Hm. I _think_ I understand the 'fi'o' construction. Nice, but n= ot very
concise. (-: Would there be there a shorter way of expressing the
(after all not too uncommon ...) concept of "somebody's coffee mug= "?
Or would "colloquial lojban", as you will, go the other way round= ...
''le kafkabri se ponse la .ieskos."?

---lubekano

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