Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OTEIH-0003p6-I4; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:22:45 -0700 Received: by gxk22 with SMTP id 22sf3235295gxk.16 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:22:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=M5UIOn1n8GofFW/1tWrWL2RXp1QhY4Bs9SHisTIuO/E=; b=2uRHBP5Emt1jCkdsS7waXLPkEJWY6k2NVuvFuZ846JFeYUYKuFiaqrtYtTIjgwfivh jL9G7YkFrEdBm0tzdSF2QxgJDoPxTOdHgJfHUDeDpT6z6Fy2te1tE6ty5xwGnI7jrxUH Xutk8PS49Q3XMvdGWThGsoPScjaJHFi9/MQ9E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p8+hHJ/mIbX8vpmKlIFG1R0MT/rutkX4D6/X+7S9eKYkXJdxsrarIllpPKMR4yDN3v K1tP2O1z5QvXYdHsy+MsC8LZMWYrC4EFLLt8djnjAj/tuU+uPhclbb+LFxXUcvvr6TwR 3/yyHZYxFIIezpJ6tpMYhG8XjFX2uQoZCE2bY= Received: by 10.101.143.22 with SMTP id v22mr368105ann.69.1277731349255; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:22:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.145.32 with SMTP id x32ls3650288ann.0.p; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.245.36 with SMTP id s36mr3951205anh.28.1277731348336; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.245.36 with SMTP id s36mr3951201anh.28.1277731348277; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y7si6621914ani.9.2010.06.28.06.22.27; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.182; Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so607112gyf.13 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:22:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.185.137 with SMTP id co9mr2627915qcb.230.1277731346949; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.190.201 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:22:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:22:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Adding to Pro-bridi From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1516 On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Ross Ogilvie wrote: > Hey > > The initial question I was thinking about this afternoon was: is { mo mo = } a > grammatically bridi. But it went on to be more general than that. Can > pro-bridi (and other things like them) be combined with each other and > brivla into tanru? > > eg > { ko klama .i sutra go'i } - Go! Quickly! > > If this is the case, I've seen forms like { na go'i }, so I know that you > can add tenses to these things. But when you say { na melbi .i na go'i } = the > second bridi has the same meaning as the first, with the second { na } > 'overwriting' the first. (I recall reading this, but couldn't find where > when I quickly checked the obvious places). CLL chapter 15, section 9, after example 9.4 >=A0 So then do tanru based around > pro-bridi follow the same principle > > eg > { mi sutra cliva .i masno go'i } =3D { mi sutra cliva .i mi masno cliva }= or { > mi sutra cliva .i masno sutra cliva } or something else? > Na is not a brivla, so it is specially defined ,if you will.... Your example would lead to "i masno sutra cliva". --gejyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.