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On 13 July 2010 05:10, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> > Neither of you seem to be familiar with xorlo.
> > lo is nonspecific, le is something the speaker has in mind.
> > It sounds unusual if you say "le ka" because it's strange to imagine a
> > particular kind of hotness the speaker has in mind.
>
>
> It's a particular tea, so it has a particular hotness.
>

A particular tea can be hot in a non-particular way (a tea which is
particular in its ingredients but not in its temperature), so "a particular
hotness" is not a corollary of "a particular tea".

But I can imagine a beverage having a particular hotness, especially if that
temperature constitutes a unique sensation of the beverage. Sommeliers say
wines are best appreciated at a certain temperature.

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 13 July 2010 05:10, Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D=
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&gt; Neither of you seem to be familiar with xorlo.<br>
&gt; lo is nonspecific, le is something the speaker has in mind.<br>
&gt; It sounds unusual if you say &quot;le ka&quot; because it&#39;s strang=
e to imagine a<br>
&gt; particular kind of hotness the speaker has in mind.<br>
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quot;a particular hotness&quot; is not a corollary of &quot;a particular te=
a&quot;.<br>
<br>But I can imagine a beverage having a particular hotness, especially if=
 that temperature constitutes a unique sensation of the beverage. Sommelier=
s say wines are best appreciated at a certain temperature.<br></div></div>
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