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Also, I think that "converting" a gismu to a sumti is a misleading way of
phrasing (like "creating" energy when "generating" would be more
appropriate).

gismu describes a type of word; sumti describes its use in a sentence (okay,
a bridi).

I think of it more as "using" a gismu as a sumti

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> On Friday 03 September 2010 01:48:11 la nub wrote:
> > I'm back with another question. I'm very confused about what a gismu
> > means when it is converted into a sumti. For instance the gismu xebni.
> > Would "lo xebni" refer to one who hates, or hatred itself? Does "lo
> > rupnu" refer to monetary units like dollars, or to the worth of an
> > object? And what would something like "lo nenri" refer to? I can't
> > even have a guess at that one.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your response  : )
>
> As Lindar said, "lo <brivla>" always means something that fits x1 of
> <brivla>.
> So:
> lo xebni = a hater
> lo rupnu = something whose value is measured in a monetary unit
> lo nenri = something that is inside
> To refer to a unit as such, I use "si'o": lo si'o snidu cu gradu tu'a lo
> sodnrcezi lo temci.
>
> Pierre
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Also, I think that &quot;converting&quot; a gismu to a sum=
ti is a misleading way of phrasing (like &quot;creating&quot; energy when &=
quot;generating&quot; would be more appropriate).<br><br>gismu describes a =
type of word; sumti describes its use in a sentence (okay, a bridi).<br>
<br>I think of it more as &quot;using&quot; a gismu as a sumti<br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Pierre Abbat <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@phma.optus.nu">phma@phma.optus.nu</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"im"=
>On Friday 03 September 2010 01:48:11 la nub wrote:<br>
&gt; I&#39;m back with another question. I&#39;m very confused about what a=
 gismu<br>
&gt; means when it is converted into a sumti. For instance the gismu xebni.=
<br>
&gt; Would &quot;lo xebni&quot; refer to one who hates, or hatred itself? D=
oes &quot;lo<br>
&gt; rupnu&quot; refer to monetary units like dollars, or to the worth of a=
n<br>
&gt; object? And what would something like &quot;lo nenri&quot; refer to? I=
 can&#39;t<br>
&gt; even have a guess at that one.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks in advance for your response =A0: )<br>
<br>
</div>As Lindar said, &quot;lo &lt;brivla&gt;&quot; always means something =
that fits x1 of &lt;brivla&gt;.<br>
So:<br>
lo xebni =3D a hater<br>
lo rupnu =3D something whose value is measured in a monetary unit<br>
lo nenri =3D something that is inside<br>
To refer to a unit as such, I use &quot;si&#39;o&quot;: lo si&#39;o snidu c=
u gradu tu&#39;a lo<br>
sodnrcezi lo temci.<br>
<br>
Pierre<br>
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