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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:07:08 -0600
From: Alan Post <alanpost@sunflowerriver.org>
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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Pure-Lojban Dictionary definitions
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I've been exploring the Pure-Lojban dictionary.  I'm not able to use
jbofihe to parse the definitions in this dictionary, I presume
because of the use of x1, x2, ... xN.  Here is the Pure-Lojban definition
of {dunda}:

  http://www.lojban.org/cgi-bin/dict.pl?Form=dict.pl1&Query=dunda&Strategy=*&Database=jbo-%3Ejbo&submit=Submit+query 

Will someone help me read the definition:

  {x1 noi ponse x2 cu gasnu lo nu x3 co'a ponse x2}

I'm exploring ways in which I can extend {valsi porsi} (Craig's
Lists) in {lo do ckiku ma zvati} ("Where are your Keys?") to include
not only the gismu, but the places (predicate arguments) for each gismu
as well.

I was hoping the Pure-Lojban dictionary would provide a hint as to
how I might talk about these places,  so I was surprised to see what
appear to be ungrammatical definitions.

Can someone share a) an understanding of how the definition of {dunda}
might be translated into something jbofihe can parse b) help me
describe the "beg, borrow, steal" list to include predicate
arguments as well as the predicate forms themselves?  (this might be
easier to do with the {skari} list:

  http://lodockikumazvati.org/valsi_porsi/gismu/skari/

Thank you!

-Alan
-- 
ko djuno fi le do sevzi

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