Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OtmYw-000655-G1; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:13:40 -0700 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf367730wyb.16 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:13:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bvBeqCH/2zwFC4znZNcfdjsLMHZzEPlw6XLhkkeb4Cs=; b=z/xhNQ0cnpRHB7SFTsrFFcHdkU3a0MHMHmfbrcBMgmMwkEO2bBkFhFPy21O7P7YYti as9xw8RCq/WnucuGixhE703nNP2oMeFOe0fBZkJDI8wcpAbQo1Ms4hJFHt6ieTACP6d6 adLdUvx6sUpOoABD2TaZM25e/We9iGt7BlaGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uHF+Mwia+O4xeh7FZ7093VpPTy/mpnkm/kMoh2FmkT+4ng7OcBjAKPy0XxvKjk3ky4 zukPjjMrj9mEQfXeY91bWzDUKsCHzXIlXxAISjuz0TLP3ohY6qrMWjQd/Z4eskKBvCfF kXIC00cnnHrASfqkHCOcPyIhkErJJphatDD/U= Received: by 10.216.144.38 with SMTP id m38mr1626238wej.29.1284059575002; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:12:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.92.203 with SMTP id s11ls2577464wbm.1.p; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.147.73 with SMTP id k9mr426501wbv.18.1284059573768; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.147.73 with SMTP id k9mr426500wbv.18.1284059573737; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a37si561810wba.3.2010.09.09.12.12.52; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.54; Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so1704451wwi.23 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:12:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.136.69 with SMTP id q5mr99529wbt.202.1284059572565; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.151.203 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:12:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100906020707.GA36971@alice.local> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:12:52 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Pure-Lojban Dictionary definitions From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1256 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Adam D. Lopresto wrot= e: > On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Alan Post wrote: >> >> I was hoping the Pure-Lojban dictionary would provide a hint as to >> how I might talk about these places, =A0so I was surprised to see what >> appear to be ungrammatical definitions. > > Yeah, the xN shortcuts have always bugged me, too. The reason I used x1, x2, etc is to keep them consistent with the style used in other languages. Even definitions in Chinese or Hebrew use the xN convention, so I wasn't going to break it for Lojban. >> Can someone share a) an understanding of how the definition of {dunda} >> might be translated into something jbofihe can parse If you read "x1" as "xy xi pa", they are grammatical (they even include "boi" where needed so that that works). I prefer ko'a, ko'e, etc. in non-jbovlaste contexts. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.