Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou0Ny-0007AV-6l; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:59:13 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf470695wwe.16 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:59:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=DTcIK2RedE+uvMRSntT1bSLDsMvgraOCRCyxvScDgK4=; b=z1BfjL6sP+105OSHK79ocaQZhKN1yNNMzQSx3ImhzkHFAbvMGtcLtH+1hlV1JL5J0R j4V9/xPGo51lnnGQ0uUK63H29K0i/DDMRbbGZornAd1RE5JTwM2GfaClBEpraY5uCarD KobKWGROlCMClqs3sHOe9aKVHmfiD+I0KNq3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=nAmTAId/b1l8cYlnA8gX9q2H6XWhmuXlLQmmRFzkJcTDr8ggf/hS3a/jEBFWWtEX/x 94PlMbmLA9skCAGZvr27rKl/AmAIu7q6lhZD6nDJo+7QvHf04O6qGUmER81Xny+UqGhT hjLOhpz3ZrcbosY2PsOgNwiXECvv0+k2qbzss= Received: by 10.216.145.132 with SMTP id p4mr56254wej.20.1284112719977; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:58:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.92.203 with SMTP id s11ls2812894wbm.1.p; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.144.207 with SMTP id a15mr35583wbv.15.1284112718698; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.144.207 with SMTP id a15mr35582wbv.15.1284112718640; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s70si809230weq.5.2010.09.10.02.58.37; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.42; Received: by mail-ww0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 15so48573wwe.3 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:58:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.136.69 with SMTP id q5mr739427wbt.202.1284112704092; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.22.199 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:58:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C89FDDE.8050508@gmail.com> References: <4C88FE19.3010505@gmail.com> <4C891A69.1070507@gmail.com> <4C89F785.4060902@gmail.com> <4C89FDDE.8050508@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:58:24 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] lo la me no da From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6498450943b67048fe4c9a5 Content-Length: 4486 --0016e6498450943b67048fe4c9a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:43 AM, wrote: > > "lo ka du no da" works. Also "lo ka me no da", or "lo ka no mei". >> > In this last example, why does there not have to be anything in between "lo > ka" and "no mei", > as there is a "du" and "me" with the others? > {lo ka du no da} is "a property of equal to nothing that exists" {lo ka me no da} is "a property of among those that are not existing" {lo ka no mei} is "a property of cardinal 0", as in amount. Those aren't great translations, and I'm not certain how to explain why the last doesn't use {du} or {me}. > thx > la ka du no da (is this correct for saying "the one named 'nothingness' "?) > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:43 AM, <lokanoda@gmail.com> wrote:

"lo ka du no da" works. Also "lo ka me no da", or "= ;lo ka no mei".
In this last example, why does there not have to be anything in between &qu= ot;lo ka" and "no mei",
as there is a "du" and "me" with the others?

{lo ka du no da} is "a property of equal to nothing tha= t exists"
{lo ka me no da} is "a property of among those that = are not existing"
{lo ka no mei} is "a property of cardinal 0", as in amount.
Those aren't great translations, and I'm not certain how to expla= in why the last doesn't use {du} or {me}.



thx
la ka du no da (is this correct for saying "the one named 'nothing= ness' "?)


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