Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oug3U-0004fa-F4; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:28:51 -0700 Received: by mail-qy0-f189.google.com with SMTP id 12sf4598895qyk.16 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:28:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received :received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=pbDKJatNPzGfV42VVKodSk1GXaaRzeRgcwzxw4y+qjQ=; b=xjaQCevOAlWlgd9xvJk80cyGg1nTAhq4TeanluH9+OlQfekF1zA2VFJ9VMSUfKtst9 a5ppGnRq3AZvUOYhrXBY9sbVs0XJI1QNG3e1Z2UQlOdghurWVmGBHaiq5Jaf025Zttuy DCSeBBMITb6gZSWWV0qtUg3nG/NoByOdOV7RM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=3wGqXXGvtXAF6UT2/9/eVqSoecmAXC1Gatul0QehJGA24zzbGDGSH3C6n/mztbXIaz ys6fcGnzyYmONIKowzfKsZSSRFOjbEu4KiVZ/2uUzaeMP23Sonkd5hF4sdtzWH03Bvgd prvXbfS1Rf4gb+S4ioUFXnHncoQQGnc6hUNj4= Received: by 10.224.21.162 with SMTP id j34mr278765qab.16.1284272904938; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:28:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.72.153 with SMTP id m25ls1816575qaj.1.p; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.72.84 with SMTP id l20mr177881qaj.8.1284272903232; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.119.129 with SMTP id n1mr28644eeh.10.1284117573036; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.119.129 with SMTP id n1mr28643eeh.10.1284117572999; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r57si2593741eeh.1.2010.09.10.04.19.31; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of fagricipni@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.181; Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so1562895eyf.26 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:19:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.231.26 with SMTP id k26mr763009weq.3.1284117571554; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.63.131 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:19:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:19:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] pregnant From: "H. Felton" To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: fagricipni@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of fagricipni@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=fagricipni@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 895 I find that deriving the Lojban from "expecting" feels malglico to me. Oddly The Draft Reference Grammar already suggests a lujvo -- and it actually seems right to me -- "pazvau" derived from the tanru "panzi vasru" because (s)he contains her offspring at this point in time. Though perhaps "tarbyvau" derived from "tarbi vasru" might be better as it is more general, inclusive of surrogate mothers or women who can not produce their own ova and must use donor ova; ie, the "tarbi" contained within the woman is not her "panzi". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.