Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ouoxu-00017s-A0; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:59:42 -0700 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7sf373671pzk.16 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:59:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=CJ0o/TIdlFHgfEwFk6q1ijIhIKy71wQM3fJSCD+mvzk=; b=eucCZvooqTJ9wZjEf4YdkHucSq77nnWB3S8JWltg+DvqS/ITTiWDSPEwIUO8ZzbsJy B7eyYH1jXK2lNIqX+3Vjn+fRhsnS8kGciJXnzJ2WNw6ugNfOYQPlZfVE8TnukJ5GXvB4 DBAPx63HquwHy7gTVNFhkzegPpAvhD6N4uqxQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=KPENGKEe6bPrJ6uYjEd1erJJjvZPpiN7AQqnGGYS8Ikm+jXP3tGdGRr3YWl1iAWBn/ g+ywStiRWgGiEwSjEj/SDUa3ZPxqQCg7eoX97uE5aiHMKgazCthRB6ivQa8oTSLhgU+7 fdq9GfUidCieErZFTMiuzyozxUoWxHI7j1/UU= Received: by 10.143.14.11 with SMTP id r11mr87294wfi.28.1284307149647; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:59:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.6.9 with SMTP id 9ls5638581wff.3.p; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.202.16 with SMTP id z16mr771805wff.32.1284307148977; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.202.16 with SMTP id z16mr771804wff.32.1284307148959; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id t33si6201647wfc.0.2010.09.12.08.59.08; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.120; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=7XxDHnCWlq4Y+sW9Of4N9ZsPasVIcE/A4MgzccTTZFI= c=1 sm=0 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=zBJjM3nC5Z5fBfEjFvQA:9 a=6dM5fte40mx-OX92LkbsesoFj7AA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=8tGIYTM_bvjUoHIB:21 a=qQHasYLdpDy2f8Sx:21 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:48149] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id D4/87-09356-CC8FC8C4; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:59:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED8F3F7D for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:59:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] merli Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:59:02 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201009121159.05298.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 1432 On Sunday 12 September 2010 09:56:15 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > That's how I use it. Except that the "scale (si'o)" also doesn't make > sense to me. I would say: > > mi merli lo karce li re lo mitre > "I measure the car to be 2 meters." > > They want you to say instead something like: > > mi merli lo ni lo karce cu clani kei li re lo si'o mitre "lo si'o mitre" is correct. lo mitre is some object or path or whatever who= se=20 length is measured in meters; lo si'o mitre is the meter as a unit. "mi merli lo karce" is sumti-raising, and in this example, I'd take it to m= ean=20 the width, not the length, which is closer to 4 m of cars I'm familiar with= .=20 I'd say "mi merli lo karce nilcla" to specify without saying so many=20 syllables. As to the accuracy: English has the oddity that an accuracy of 1 millimeter= is=20 greater than an accuracy of 10 millimeters. I think that accuracy of a=20 quantity expressed in meters should be expressed in diopters. Pierre --=20 Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.