Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OuqfR-000501-3R; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:48:45 -0700 Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17sf610557fxm.16 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:48:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xD6BssmX099MCZrIMEy6BorxIHLxK5rB7wtGUpm0YkA=; b=M1cGTXUcuOY07siE3HqH9H3UlZMkTtAXmgo69VklMNbapoSvHtNUuRGmrPw0jCD4e9 vXxLwUzmfAksBuosMxnZeZKcD27K0CJS3QK/CkLQ5gGoHim+eFtxranx5QwCryStVDTP komKGjGQhEI0qBf4ogFJMDed6MmLsS5+r32QA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=uOyJ8LwK7ySK7jDWeG8IPTW2rEOI7vbHJ6OltsLjGAAcl1pP+6llbbRdoRMyfE/wqz lylRNKc+HLCCyRoD6GIWjw/n1ErwuAiMHo0GX9SnioJBgR3k5GxzykrM5gyA53uDahKM X75psScirezHkD0K9ECkOY4G9Nae/zO9CIlAQ= Received: by 10.223.94.139 with SMTP id z11mr81315fam.41.1284313691483; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:48:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.137.193 with SMTP id x1ls3864166bkt.0.p; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.24.70 with SMTP id u6mr93419bkb.7.1284313690553; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.24.70 with SMTP id u6mr93418bkb.7.1284313690523; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f45.google.com (mail-bw0-f45.google.com [209.85.214.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p18si2775814bkb.0.2010.09.12.10.48.09; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.45; Received: by mail-bw0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 3so4238356bwz.4 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:48:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.112.84 with SMTP id v20mr2339403bkp.213.1284313689362; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.98.71 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:48:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 13:48:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Assigning ko'a From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d9a1673c112a049013953d Content-Length: 5151 --0016e6d9a1673c112a049013953d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the case of putting it first for single sumti, what stops the {goi}? Does {ko'a goi ...} just gobble up as many/much sumti as it can get until it reaches the selbri? Or will it stop when it finds a sumti that is un-connected to the sumti before it? 2010/9/12 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > > How do I assign KOhA to refer to sumti joined with a JOI ? > > > > For example in: > > > > le plise ku jo'u le najnimre ku goi ko'a casnu .i ko'a sanga > > > > the orange is the one singing. How can I make "ko'a" to refer to both t= he > > orange and the apple? In other words, how to render "them" ? > > One way is to use "vu'o", as Lindar said. Another trick, is to put "ko'a" > first: > > ko'a goi le plise jo'u le najnimre cu casnu .i ko'a sanga > > In this case, if you wanted ko'a to be just le plise, you would need > to use "ge'u", the terminator for PE: > > ko'a goi le plise ge'u jo'u le najnimre cu casnu .i ko'a sanga > > The assignable variable can go on either side of the assignment > phrase, so if you want conciseness, put it first for multiple sumti > and last for single sumti. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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2010/9/12 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
> How do I assign KOhA to refer to sumti joined with a JOI ?
>
> For example in:
>
> =A0 le plise ku jo'u le najnimre ku goi ko'a casnu .i ko'a= sanga
>
> the orange is the one singing. How can I make "ko'a" to = refer to both the
> orange and the apple? In other words, how to render "them" ?=

One way is to use "vu'o", as Lindar said. Another trick= , is to put "ko'a" first:

=A0ko'a goi le plise jo'u le najnimre cu casnu .i ko'a sanga
In this case, if you wanted ko'a to be just le plise, you would need to use "ge'u", the terminator for PE:

=A0ko'a goi le plise ge'u jo'u le najnimre cu casnu .i ko'= a sanga

The assignable variable can go on either side of the assignment
phrase, so if you want conciseness, put it first for multiple sumti
and last for single sumti.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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