Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ov0a6-0001T2-7u; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:23:53 -0700 Received: by pxi13 with SMTP id 13sf410965pxi.16 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:23:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=e45znLkxu5V57X/yHYZkTOPgNiuGieMEXp3Qv4ViYJ4=; b=AlQn98A3DlwLnn/lc4EANFav9iiB8JifOOzg2yRETOdfrJ+RAV/s+e2acBKMVdexdd xdR9N2R66bunOvwVJLH5hUN7yuq0R+1x7NUWFiS5faN4xRD85EVb42EkhBi8lLQY+4Zz HpbcxUep5yM1pmiJ61R2tEGE0V3Hya0AJ/4Lo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=30cCJxw3wCtc4lk7jyk+n7fsy5j3oFRb3lbXKtqPiEENc+gAagGu4OOJ1u6B8rktFn WpXYKwTtkpjNBl4LvoCWN6Y5lSAvNPb1Sz3TQNBIs6g0N4Y1JZ84F3s15BXixEZznWWV +uQAreCeQwM/W6aJRXOhHjuWcy2G9kru3iNew= Received: by 10.115.36.14 with SMTP id o14mr184937waj.27.1284351801332; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:23:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.67.12 with SMTP id u12ls213113wak.3.p; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.59.1 with SMTP id h1mr893392waa.42.1284351800607; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.59.1 with SMTP id h1mr893391waa.42.1284351800579; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id k37si6970484wae.2.2010.09.12.21.23.19; Sun, 12 Sep 2010 21:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Q1w7DWWvqld16GQoyB+sexBKp78BZiBYDPh1NDxPZyU= c=1 sm=0 a=Bwei0axHKmsA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=sIjASDoaAAAA:8 a=CPEa5I_OuJJZBiwbLFgA:9 a=EoyB7Ux5B75NuYrfUu9qh5btibwA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:41760] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 95/F5-00252-637AD8C4; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:23:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548802724 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 00:23:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] le virnu smani blozeile'a Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 00:22:24 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201009130022.28527.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 2796 On Sunday 12 September 2010 17:08:42 Remo Dentato wrote: > I've a first draft of the translation for a new jbove'a cukta. The > title is "The Brave Monkey Pirate" > > This is much more complex than the first on I made, so I expect to > find a lot of mistakes in this draft. Some of the pages were above my > level, I hope I've been able to render them more or less. > > You can find the translation here: > http://www.dentato.com/the-brave-monkey-pirate-jbo-review.pdf p. 1: "Hayes" is pronounced /heiz/, so it should be Lojbanized as "eiz" or "xeiz". p. 5: I'd restructure that sentence. "ni'o le blozeile'a po'u la modix. kansa le mamta le nu ..." I didn't understand "cmalu litru" (was he in a small boat? is he small?) and it doesn't match the sense of the original. How about "vricycuntu litru"? Why "modix" instead of "modis" or "modin"? p. 8: "rainelci" is two words. I thought it was an error of jvozba, but it appears to be correct. Maybe you want "serai", though, as the object of "rai" would be the restaurant. p. 9: Normally one says "le mamta be" rather than "le mamta po". Not that it's wrong, as one says "le mi mamta" because it's shorter, and that's equivalent to "le mamta pe mi". p. 11: "lo skorbuti" means "someone who has scurvy". For the disease as such, you want "la skorbut." "le jinku befi la skorbut" does not make sense. lo jinku is something (not necessarily an injection; I've come up with "tatygre jinku" for "diathelic immunity") which causes the immune system to recognize some antigen as a pathogen and attack it, thus hopefully preventing a disease for many years. Scurvy is a deficiency disease, not an infectious disease. I'd use "nu je'erse'a". ("je'erse'atci", on the next page, means the syringe.) p. 14: should be "tolcri da" or "facki fi da". p. 17: I'd say "le dei lisri" instead of "le ta lisri". ta is something either at medium distance from me/us or near you. p. 19: See comment on page 14. x2 of "facki" is a fact. There is such a thing as a sea spider, though it's not an arachnid. I think that the word for "crab" should be a fu'ivla, as even if "xasyjukni" refers to crustaceans, it's not specific to crabs. p. 20: "ta" should be "ti". "ca'o le je'erse'a" should be "ca'o lo nu je'erse'a". "muvgau" doesn't make sense, but I'm not sure what the right word is. Pierre -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.