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On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM, TheLugal <thelugal@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi!
> I have been interested in lojban for a while, but just now decided to
> actually start learning it.
> problem is, I don't know where I should start. So if anyone could've
> give me a start in the right direction, I would be very grateful.
>    ~ TheLugal.
>

Here's a few links to get you started. I put a star in front of the ones
that I recommend you start with:

* http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Learning - Contains most if
not all resources for learning the language.

http://smart.fm/goals/search?autodetected=lojban&keyword=&language=jbo - All
the Smart.fm goals. (Smart.fm is a flashcard learning program - great for
vocab.)

* http://smart.fm/goals/268251 - All the gismu (root words) of Lojban, with
full place structure, such as "bacru    x1 utters x2"

http://smart.fm/goals/279583 - All the individual places for each gismu,
such as "lo bacru    an utterer" "lo se bacru    an utterance"

http://smart.fm/goals/266809 - Both of the above two combined into one giant
lesson.

http://smart.fm/goals/292653 - All the cmavo, not including combinations,
such as ".ui     happiness (attitudinal)"

* http://smart.fm/goals/284287 - All the cmavo in the goal above, plus the
more common combinations, such as ".uinai     unhappiness (attitudinal)"

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Complete+Lojban+Language-
A link to order the print book "The Complete Lojban Language", which
describes the grammar of Lojban pretty much in it's entirety. A bit
outdated, as there have been a few changes, but nothing horribly important-
the biggest one is, we use lo a lot more than le nowadays, because of xorlo.
Currently in the process of being updated for a new, more current edition.

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Lojban+Reference+Grammar-
An online version of the CLL, and slightly more outdated, but still
good.

http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/book1.html - "Lojban
for Beginners", the first book specifically geared towards teaching new
people Lojban. Also a bit outdated thanks to xorlo.

* https://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+iDtofbn8C - The
Lojban Google Wave, a much more current document, meant to replace the
"Lojban for Beginners" book. Also available as a plain web page,
http://jbotcan.org/wave_lesson/old.html

Also, there's the Lojban Beginners group, which you've already found, which
is a great place to ask questions about basically anything related to
Lojban, and the IRC channel, #lojban, on freenode, where you can go to talk
about or in Lojban, and where our current Lojban instructors (the ones who
made the Wave), are pretty much always lurking.

Welcome to Lojbanistan!

-- 
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do
zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM, TheLugal <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:thelugal@gmail.com">thelugal@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0=
pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: =
1ex;">
Hi!<br>
I have been interested in lojban for a while, but just now decided to<br>
actually start learning it.<br>
problem is, I don&#39;t know where I should start. So if anyone could&#39;v=
e<br>
give me a start in the right direction, I would be very grateful.<br>
 =A0 =A0~ TheLugal.<font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></blockquote><div><br=
></div></div>Here&#39;s a few links to get you started. I put a star in fro=
nt of the ones that I recommend you start with:<br><br>* <a href=3D"http://=
www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DLearning">http://www.lojban.org/t=
iki/tiki-index.php?page=3DLearning</a> - Contains most if not all resources=
 for learning the language.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://smart.fm/goals/search?autodetected=3Dlojban&amp;keywo=
rd=3D&amp;language=3Djbo">http://smart.fm/goals/search?autodetected=3Dlojba=
n&amp;keyword=3D&amp;language=3Djbo</a>
 - All the Smart.fm goals. (Smart.fm is a flashcard learning program -=20
great for vocab.)<br><br>* <a href=3D"http://smart.fm/goals/268251">http://=
smart.fm/goals/268251</a> - All the gismu (root words) of Lojban, with full=
 place structure, such as &quot;bacru=A0=A0=A0 x1 utters x2&quot;<br><br><a=
 href=3D"http://smart.fm/goals/279583">http://smart.fm/goals/279583</a>
 - All the individual places for each gismu, such as &quot;lo bacru=A0=A0=
=A0 an=20
utterer&quot; &quot;lo se bacru=A0=A0=A0 an utterance&quot;<br><br><a href=
=3D"http://smart.fm/goals/266809">http://smart.fm/goals/266809</a> - Both o=
f the above two combined into one giant lesson.<br><br><a href=3D"http://sm=
art.fm/goals/292653">http://smart.fm/goals/292653</a> - All the cmavo, not =
including combinations, such as &quot;<span class=3D"text_cue jbo">.ui</spa=
n>=A0=A0=A0=A0 <span class=3D"text_response">happiness (attitudinal)</span>=
&quot;<br>
<br>* <a href=3D"http://smart.fm/goals/284287">http://smart.fm/goals/284287=
</a> - All the cmavo in the goal above, plus the more common combinations, =
such as &quot;<span class=3D"text_cue jbo">.uinai</span>=A0=A0=A0=A0 <span =
class=3D"text_response">unhappiness (attitudinal)</span>&quot;<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DThe+Complet=
e+Lojban+Language">http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DThe+Com=
plete+Lojban+Language</a> - A link to order the print book &quot;The Comple=
te Lojban Language&quot;, which describes the grammar of Lojban pretty much=
 in it&#39;s entirety. A bit outdated, as there have been a few changes, bu=
t nothing horribly important- the biggest one is, we use lo a lot more than=
 le nowadays, because of xorlo. Currently in the process of being updated f=
or a new, more current edition.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DThe+Lojban+=
Reference+Grammar">http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DThe+Loj=
ban+Reference+Grammar</a> - An online version of the CLL, and slightly more=
 outdated, but still good.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/book=
1.html">http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/book1.html<=
/a> - &quot;Lojban for Beginners&quot;, the first book specifically geared =
towards teaching new people Lojban. Also a bit outdated thanks to xorlo.<br=
>
<br>* <a href=3D"https://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+iDto=
fbn8C">https://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+iDtofbn8C</a> =
- The Lojban Google Wave, a much more current document, meant to replace th=
e &quot;Lojban for Beginners&quot; book. Also available as a plain web page=
, <a href=3D"http://jbotcan.org/wave_lesson/old.html">http://jbotcan.org/wa=
ve_lesson/old.html</a><br>
<br>Also, there&#39;s the Lojban Beginners group, which you&#39;ve already =
found, which is a great place to ask questions about basically anything rel=
ated to Lojban, and the IRC channel, #lojban, on freenode, where you can go=
 to talk about or in Lojban, and where our current Lojban instructors (the =
ones who made the Wave), are pretty much always lurking.<br>
<br>Welcome to Lojbanistan!<br><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br=
>.i.a&#39;o.e&#39;e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. m=
i patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<=
br>
<br>

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