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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] I love sei
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oh... actually yeah, now that I take a second (closer) look at the original,
it looks fine for the same reason that I mentioned earlier.

{sei za'a do jinvi mi plana} breaks down into:

I observe you opine, I am fat.  It doesn't seem right because we usually
don't put {sei} like constructs at the beginning of sentences in english,
but it amounts to the same thing as "I'm fat, you opine ( I think )".  The
{do jinvi} is all that gets sucked up into the {sei} which leaves the {mi
plana} as the main bridi.

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Timo Paulssen <
timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote:

> On 10/06/2010 05:23 PM, Luke Bergen wrote:
> > Actually I think Timo is right.  {sei} is funny in that it will take
> > as many sumti as you give it, followed by selbri and then that's it.
>
> It appears to me, though, that le la kampu ku protest was not about the
> grammar of sei, but the semantics of the sentence.
>
> mu'o mi'e timos
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oh... actually yeah, now that I take a second (closer) look at the original=
, it looks fine for the same reason that I mentioned earlier. =A0<div><br><=
/div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: arial, san=
s-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; ">{sei za&#39;a do jin=
vi mi plana} breaks down into:</span></div>
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><span clas=
s=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></fo=
nt></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><=
span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse;">I obse=
rve you opine, I am fat. =A0It doesn&#39;t seem right because we usually do=
n&#39;t put {sei} like constructs at the beginning of sentences in english,=
 but it amounts to the same thing as &quot;I&#39;m fat, you opine ( I think=
 )&quot;. =A0The {do jinvi} is all that gets sucked up into the {sei} which=
 leaves the {mi plana} as the main bridi.<br>
</span></font><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:26 A=
M, Timo Paulssen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:timonator@perpetuu=
m-immobile.de">timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On 10/06/2010 05:23 PM, Luke Bergen wrote:<br>
&gt; Actually I think Timo is right. =A0{sei} is funny in that it will take=
<br>
&gt; as many sumti as you give it, followed by selbri and then that&#39;s i=
t.<br>
<br>
</div>It appears to me, though, that le la kampu ku protest was not about t=
he<br>
grammar of sei, but the semantics of the sentence.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e timos<br>
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