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gah, du'u and sedu'u so are so closely related that it's hard to distinguish
them.  So, {se du'u} is a piece of text that expresses a {du'u} which is a
fact.  I've been using {cusku lo du'u} all this time when I really meant {se
du'u}.  {mi djuno lo du'u broda}  but {mi cusku lo se du'u do broda}.

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Kevin Reid <kpreid@switchb.org> wrote:

>
> On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:58, Luke Bergen wrote:
>
>  oops.  I thought that's what {du'u} was.  I thought {se du'u} was "the
>> sentence that expresses a bridi".  So I would think that {se du'u} is the
>> actual sentence and {du'u} is the basic relationship that the {se du'u} is
>> expressing.
>>
>
> Yes, exactly so.
>
> 1. You said "you are fat" to me    do cusku lu do plana li'u mi
> 2. You said that I am fat          do cusku lo se du'u mi plana
>
> #1 implies #2; #2 is less specific than #1, in that it does not give exact
> phrasing.
>
> Why do you think you need to use some other abstraction than {du'u}?
>
>
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gah, du&#39;u and sedu&#39;u so are so closely related that it&#39;s hard t=
o distinguish them. =A0So, {se du&#39;u} is a piece of text that expresses =
a {du&#39;u} which is a fact. =A0I&#39;ve been using {cusku lo du&#39;u} al=
l this time when I really meant {se du&#39;u}. =A0{mi djuno lo du&#39;u bro=
da} =A0but {mi cusku lo se du&#39;u do broda}.<div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Kevin Reid <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kpreid@switchb.org">kpreid@switchb.o=
rg</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im"><br>
On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:58, Luke Bergen wrote:<br>
<br>
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x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
oops. =A0I thought that&#39;s what {du&#39;u} was. =A0I thought {se du&#39;=
u} was &quot;the sentence that expresses a bridi&quot;. =A0So I would think=
 that {se du&#39;u} is the actual sentence and {du&#39;u} is the basic rela=
tionship that the {se du&#39;u} is expressing.<br>

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Yes, exactly so.<br>
<br>
1. You said &quot;you are fat&quot; to me =A0 =A0do cusku lu do plana li&#3=
9;u mi<br>
2. You said that I am fat =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0do cusku lo se du&#39;u mi pla=
na<br>
<br>
#1 implies #2; #2 is less specific than #1, in that it does not give exact =
phrasing.<br>
<br>
Why do you think you need to use some other abstraction than {du&#39;u}?<di=
v><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
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