Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3WM8-0003wm-00; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:56:39 -0700 Received: by yxs7 with SMTP id 7sf5952404yxs.16 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:56:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=kv+pqmP+piY4gSrTJs9APUbqU7UdrgvZ1mtmid1itJQ=; b=yJEuucgSrV0Swadhr31KvtG03D2vrnSbGcclKIXOn8U4wiENyxRGcXsIstG/Qib3Zg 6HGZPU+BoWj27oZNC/xUTdHyJexXJatc2cNQGu4RIwSGl6/wVBFPFuai0h3RirAKbx2Y MqVBv+LbTGo46GVR8TwJf4eV6AcCHoUllIg9o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=YZHXIP/xfcuyoHqOq9j4fcQnGTmGRS4a36Z7XNoVoP7KDdxPmQl4xgeDOBxgh81TsO lM7UkYw+d17wNem0xzYXL3rY3XIIrMTCtQ+hFcuySreb6Umy8pvg0NLejyPp5U2fWZDN vOIJMCcJMxVE46SBhmcgrlwlwnNqQcqzMmbzM= Received: by 10.90.23.3 with SMTP id 3mr218436agw.28.1286380570241; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:56:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.123.203 with SMTP id q11ls3786897ibr.2.p; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.10.132 with SMTP id p4mr2927180ibp.1.1286380569433; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.10.132 with SMTP id p4mr2927173ibp.1.1286380568571; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f173.google.com (mail-iw0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e4si634950ibc.4.2010.10.06.08.56.07; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.173; Received: by iwn42 with SMTP id 42so1181650iwn.4 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:56:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.191.136 with SMTP id dm8mr14135478ibb.75.1286380566940; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Oct 2010 08:56:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101006154504.GC24166@alice.local> References: <84c5d2b7-de8e-4789-83f3-f5aebb028d46@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <20101006154504.GC24166@alice.local> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 11:56:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: A suggestion for the Lojban names of weekdays and months. From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367d6c4abded670491f4d0bf Content-Length: 6073 --0016367d6c4abded670491f4d0bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Personally, the more I think about it, the more I'm loving gejyspa's skadei suggestion. - It has the sequential nature that a rational logical system should have. - It's very flexible for different calendars to invent new day words without necessarily conflicting with other calendars by adding more fine grained color words for more days to a week or more broad color words for fewer days. - It completely avoids the problem that xorxes pointed out of colliding with the Nday long periods system. - I can't think of anything off the top of my head that would make sense for xundei, et al so not likely to collide with future lujvo. - Don't need to worry about cmevla vs taking up gismu space vs etc... All the weekday words under gejyspa's system are canonical form lujvo. - It's an original piece of lojban culture that isn't merely a copy off of other cultures techniques for naming days (hey imagine that!) - It's prettier, in my opinion. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:45 AM, .alyn.post. wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:15:27PM -0700, Lindar wrote: > > However, you'll never get a proposal passed for -that much- gismu > > space for something that ridiculous. > > > > Lindar, > > So that I might better understand, what kind of proposal would be > insufficiently ridiculous for proposing 7 gismu? I'd like to better > understand what is and isn't a worthly proposal for adding gismu, > outside of this specific proposal to add 7 gismu for days of the > week. > > -Alan > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0016367d6c4abded670491f4d0bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Personally, the more I think about it, the more I'm loving gejyspa'= s skadei suggestion. =A0<after typing out a long paragraph with sentence= s starting with "additionally" and "also" etc... I'= ve opted for bullets>
  • It has the sequential nature that a rational logical system should = have.
  • It's very flexible for different=A0calendars=A0to invent = new day words without=A0necessarily=A0conflicting with other=A0calendars by= adding more fine grained color words for more days to a week or more broad= color words for fewer days. =A0
  • It completely avoids the problem that xorxes pointed out of=A0colliding= =A0with the Nday long periods system. =A0
  • I can't think of anyt= hing off the top of my head that would make sense for xundei, et al so not = likely to collide with future lujvo.
  • Don't need to worry about cmevla vs taking up gismu space vs etc...= =A0All the weekday words under gejyspa's system are=A0canonical=A0form= lujvo.
  • It's an original piece of lojban culture that isn't= merely a copy off of other cultures techniques for naming days (hey imagin= e that!)
  • It's prettier, in my=A0opinion.

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:45 AM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.o= rg> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 1= 1:15:27PM -0700, Lindar wrote:
> However, you'll never get a proposal passed for -that much- gismu<= br> > space for something that ridiculous.
>

Lindar,

So that I might better understand, what kind of proposal would be
insufficiently ridiculous for proposing 7 gismu? =A0I'd like to better<= br> understand what is and isn't a worthly proposal for adding gismu,
outside of this specific proposal to add 7 gismu for days of the
week.

-Alan
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.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi

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