Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3Xg1-0000Ob-6K; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:21:19 -0700 Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40sf2037941wyb.16 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:21:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IwdSlQ2PvF1lZU7cW9cOTETSEKZDlQMx6IaXYgHpRa8=; b=bML1JF99G0xWkZ4aH41lDEDBPzuPfTe1VAd0nplmOcAeWB25FZfrePaRB90g2d/jzC AYmBUaVD9f1A5VoJmz7LnD5O6wgLo1Q48m0kLYmLElmrOoGP25JcMoUUi3/TNaSJLXEE /H81hRhZEISijZarcuGJwVntf874gQtczutTA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=UsQLv9Ij3v0EHgqR8nEo2Gw5Q34NghwTGM+Zlp8act5Ua/muQoMAc7WqunlaXAe0XH UCovnv3h3FpoNjMp3YIp51++Gcfw+2OiV6U8uO8dKXsJJ2L2nt3bklo89F1mOzRzSUtl EyCcydZokmFaO/9nZqXVsqK4qE3L2QeWp5BjQ= Received: by 10.216.144.25 with SMTP id m25mr2471712wej.9.1286385646694; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:20:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.242.202 with SMTP id i52ls3146912wer.0.p; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.37.211 with SMTP id y61mr656732wea.14.1286385645403; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.37.211 with SMTP id y61mr656731wea.14.1286385645369; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com (mail-ww0-f49.google.com [74.125.82.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x37si374113weq.8.2010.10.06.10.20.44; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.49; Received: by mail-ww0-f49.google.com with SMTP id 34so25067wwb.18 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:20:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.157.199 with SMTP id c7mr11140687wbx.166.1286385644014; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:20:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CAC9347.1030504@perpetuum-immobile.de> References: <4CA61A41.9020501@perpetuum-immobile.de> <4CAC9347.1030504@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 14:20:43 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] I love sei From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1154 On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Timo Paulssen wrote: > On 10/02/2010 01:30 AM, David Gowers (kampu) wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Timo Paulssen >> wrote: >>> How about this? >>> >>> sei za'a do jinvi mi plana >> >> do you mean >> >> sei za'a do jinvi be le du'u mi plana (imo 'you say I am fat' isn't >> break-upable like le do pu selsku) > > No, I'm actually pretty certain what i said makes perfect sense. Could I > have the opinions of other lojbanists on this? It makes perfect sense to me, but as you probably know there are those who take any utterance of a non-subordinate bridi as carrying assertive force, and may not accept that "sei za'a do jinvi" can be enough to defeat that. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.