Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3ZAw-0006T3-4j; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:57:17 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf6076333gya.16 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:57:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Qk69XqvBkRQFWM3NqrdUbNwhdAYlAcBJxg8Jcq86Wds=; b=dsWC083oJLfYOPf/nVh6/WZw3/+p/BioDyYwowI4dk0SQM+z2Btq43FcPIAHK5Zgad 5tEvHUiKKZ2YXeJZ9EYA8iC4tZkOo3eyZO0+bjcAiFPITNphNCsZIACEOcB2mWlMibm2 KOREHZ2V3YgiS+HuIsMBc0uAJfeBlzglyVQBs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=cP1Oq2gXU3zM7TRLhkTDeLiRa0m7dCsaapP7iRIZXSa+ElKVVCRWFvXwfQ7zWbhHW6 vx+4atAsPFrvy5nm9HR9LNfCTFzFXRrhpUWMRf+TgRhVO83XUsXJCGuHV8OwmPdlGF1t b80rC6icrdVmiag8uoZzxVRyCthFi1l2fe+/k= Received: by 10.101.106.25 with SMTP id i25mr2624anm.52.1286391408256; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:56:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.86.11 with SMTP id j11ls3264141anb.4.p; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.206.10 with SMTP id d10mr1122760ang.21.1286391407771; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.206.10 with SMTP id d10mr1122759ang.21.1286391407749; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f50.google.com (mail-yw0-f50.google.com [209.85.213.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n16si154704ana.11.2010.10.06.11.56.46; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.50; Received: by yws5 with SMTP id 5so1833648yws.9 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:56:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.175.129 with SMTP id ba1mr444516icb.41.1286391406556; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Oct 2010 11:56:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101006182618.GK24166@alice.local> References: <0920892c-cdb1-4e55-85fc-32424c1ecf92@j18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <20101006182618.GK24166@alice.local> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 14:56:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Obscene vocabulary From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6146ced474140491f75677 Content-Length: 5254 --90e6ba6146ced474140491f75677 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think what ruler11 is getting at (and I've also started similar discussions with little success) is... "let's talk about things that you would say in lojban when a jerk cuts you off in rush hour traffic". In other words, there are time when humans do not want to have to say things like: {do mutce lo ka xlali fi lo remce'u} but would prefer something like "dickhead!". On that note, I've heard {tolmencre} used with negative connotation (like "idiot"). On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:26 PM, .alyn.post. wrote: > On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 08:59:11AM -0700, Ruler11 wrote: > > Children please leave this theme. > > > > No doubt the more emotional the language the easier it is to learn. > > > > How can I use bad language in lojban ? > > Any short list of your favorite swearwords and swearphrases in > > lojban ? > > Any words, phrases and meanings accepted. > > > > Life is life. We must discuss it. > > > > My basic understand of Lojban is that facts are not profane--you > might say "I'm going to excrete feces" to say "I'm going to the > bathroom" without negative connotation. > > You can certainly be insulting, and rude, but it isn't the words so > much as the structure of a bridi that creates this effect. > > -Alan > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --90e6ba6146ced474140491f75677 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think what ruler11 is getting at (and I've also started similar discu= ssions with little success) is... "let's talk about things that yo= u would say in lojban when a jerk cuts you off in rush hour traffic".<= div>
In other words, there are time when humans do not want to ha= ve to say things like: {do mutce lo ka xlali fi lo remce'u} but would p= refer something like "dickhead!". =A0On that note, I've heard= {tolmencre} used with negative connotation (like "idiot").

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:26 PM, .alyn.post. = <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 08:59:11AM -0700, Ruler11 wrote:
> Children please leave this theme.
>
> No doubt the more emotional the language the easier it is to learn. >
> How can I use bad language in lojban ?
> Any short list of your favorite swearwords and swearphrases in
> lojban ?
> Any words, phrases and meanings accepted.
>
> Life is life. We must discuss it.
>

My basic understand of Lojban is that facts are not profane--you
might say "I'm going to excrete feces" to say "I'm g= oing to the
bathroom" without negative connotation.

You can certainly be insulting, and rude, but it isn't the words so
much as the structure of a bridi that creates this effect.

-Alan
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.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi

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