Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3aq7-0006Uc-EX; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:43:55 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf6147910gya.16 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:43:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3Q3f3ouZtGAmf289DQ95TCMlH53Aj1jHeeWflLJUR8k=; b=PYYv9sSn0EnWFE/KVLtyx9UKkEr7IfScDdDXq24cY38hxN/jsLRUVJqcN6B8d017JE wR7mCmO8so6ZExQ9t1RA/hKWhMyKrfklvVau+O4bOOkohdA56WPDfRr76hQCji75IqPG XuWEeTLYtdHfyRtHMQyC0/gsWqOM4n7jsmqnk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=LKsG6VKo1W0vzu/g16RcuC53H5mzoeE7G85fG4EI4vxS4H+4SP3AwFmzTa5jYQHB3l CzVvOjn97/wx88JvX3lqnZZF6bWLZNv3WfLpy3xbubTVAjg2bV61ec7dneJvEh24oTls sKrXgS+MKsTPLmzFYNrv1oMPCvFIZRT4yLYyI= Received: by 10.90.219.3 with SMTP id r3mr270977agg.40.1286397805579; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:43:25 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.55.74 with SMTP id t10ls3918903ibg.3.p; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.176.11 with SMTP id bc11mr3555257ibb.13.1286397804951; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.176.11 with SMTP id bc11mr3555256ibb.13.1286397804867; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f179.google.com (mail-iw0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b32si425499ibq.5.2010.10.06.13.43.23; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.179; Received: by mail-iw0-f179.google.com with SMTP id 7so523247iwn.24 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:43:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.11.193 with SMTP id u1mr12681050ibu.113.1286397803343; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.16 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Oct 2010 13:43:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101006163218.GE24166@alice.local> References: <20101006163218.GE24166@alice.local> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 14:43:23 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: [lojban] A suggestion for the Lojban names of weekdays and months. From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022152d64d11baf880491f8d468 Content-Length: 5460 --0022152d64d11baf880491f8d468 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:32 AM, .alyn.post. wrote: > On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 04:24:20PM +0200, Remo Dentato wrote: > > BTW we are talking about the Gregorian Calendar, right? > > > > I always thought that Lojbanistan was using International Fixed > > Calendar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar) > > for cultural neutrality! > > > > :) > > > > I was hoping I wasn't going to be the first person to question why > weeks had to have 7 days, or why the Gregorian Calendar was assumed > to be universal. > > There are many fascinating proposals regarding calendar reform: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_reform > > The one that got the most traction was eventually blocked on > religious objections, namely that it didn't have repeating 7-day > cycles: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Calendar > > I've personally wanted to see a marriage of lunar and solar > calendars along a 19-year cycle: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metonic_cycle > > Having said all of this, my own attempts to follow a non-gregorian > calendar, with or without Lojban, has been a struggle in > reconciling any new calendar system with the world's use of the > gregorian calendar. > > -Alan > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > Hey, if it were up to me, we'd be using the Druid calendar, which consists of 8 45 day months and one 5-6 day month at the end of the year. :D (Unfortunately, I can't find a wikipedia article about it, so the neo-pagan Wheel of the Year article will have to do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_of_the_year) -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:32 AM, .alyn.post. <alyn.p= ost@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 04:24:20PM +0200, Remo Dentato wr= ote:
> BTW we are talking about the Gregorian Calendar, right?
>
> I always thought that Lojbanistan was using International Fixed
> Calendar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixe= d_Calendar)
> for cultural neutrality!
>
> =A0:)
>

I was hoping I wasn't going to be the first person to question wh= y
weeks had to have 7 days, or why the Gregorian Calendar was assumed
to be universal.

There are many fascinating proposals regarding calendar reform:

=A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_reform

The one that got the most traction was eventually blocked on
religious objections, namely that it didn't have repeating 7-day
cycles:

=A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Calendar

I've personally wanted to see a marriage of lunar and solar
calendars along a 19-year cycle:

=A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metonic_cycle

Having said all of this, my own attempts to follow a non-gregorian
calendar, with or without Lojban, has been a struggle in
reconciling any new calendar system with the world's use of the
gregorian calendar.

-Alan
--
.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi

Hey, if it were up to me, we'd be using th= e Druid calendar, which consists of 8 45 day months and one 5-6 day month a= t the end of the year. :D
(Unfortunately, I can't find a wikipedia a= rticle about it, so the neo-pagan Wheel of the Year article will have to do= : http://en.wiki= pedia.org/wiki/Wheel_of_the_year)

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le= bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to= the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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