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On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:32 AM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> detri
>
> x1 is the date [day,week,month,year] of event/state x2, at location
> x3, by calendar x4.
>
> .i li pa lo'o detri (lo cabdei)
>
> "Today is the first."

Yes, the first of the month.

> .i li pa pi'e ci pi'e re pi'e re no pa no lo'o detri lo cabdei mi lo
> *gregorian*
>
> Today is the first day of the third week (the 15th?) of the second
> month (February?) of the year 2010 (in base dau) at my location in the
> gregorian calendar.

I don't think that's how "week" was intended in detri. I think it was
meant as week of the year, not week of the month. In fact week number
(be it of the month or of the year) is not well defined because of the
ambiguity in when the week starts. If it's Monday the second of
January, is that the first week or the second week of the month/year?

>  You -don't- need two whole
> new gismu for this when we have -one- perfectly good word that does
> the job exactly how you want.

But "detri" doesn't do the job we want. Do you really expect
"relseldetri" to be understood as "Tueday"? Try saying "we meet every
Tuesday" using "detri".

> If you want to discuss what exactly is
> permitted in the x1 of detri (should it be "day | month | year" or
> "day of week | week | month | quarter | year | additional division |
> another big measurement | bollocks" or ... whatever!), then that's
> totally cool,

Last time this was discussed, the most support seemed to be for the
year;month;day order, but this is one of those recurring topics, so
who knows what will happen this time.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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