Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3qig-00011h-BI; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:41:23 -0700 Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40sf170820wyb.16 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:41:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=MaTuyxVIY+zdo6r4RZ0kOE0HJguEIqJcNuVpjGUIhNM=; b=E6mKmKRQul7QaKK9Q5ca6s8QvHONEYjhsb/il09y4sQD48l1z6WICEl3mesmkvObu+ 5uI/8TIzPpsOcmL5DZ/Q8vF8v2psTjBhqlw5nmrJEfn0FEpKafesj9FeJJchxazfs0/1 CE9XwEtStk4A5Hn+68eF9gZt7v/Jf2+uYQWxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=FAApt/SmJRDjz/cz81COUVNlVIVX2Kg5CP/sfd71F4ks5bYiSwCtd6kgMwsdu+NZ9C BpEHHmLw+/Uyl4AOtLGw3ndTMsmkZXrHBO/LdooEFfhDgSRmLEG4K002kvevTUsArI5z Fph7ksvkvzyM3IaDpngVEDEkBAEYUymWg1tPA= Received: by 10.216.144.38 with SMTP id m38mr91255wej.29.1286458846288; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:40:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.3.19 with SMTP id 19ls72929wbl.3.p; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.161.9 with SMTP id v9mr41852wek.5.1286458845045; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.161.9 with SMTP id v9mr41851wek.5.1286458845017; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f171.google.com (mail-wy0-f171.google.com [74.125.82.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id m11si742207wej.15.2010.10.07.06.40.43; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.171; Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so74881wyf.16 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:40:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.147.6 with SMTP id j6mr873982wbv.57.1286458839757; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Oct 2010 06:40:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010061703.14894.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:40:39 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: A suggestion for the Lojban names of weekdays and months. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1804 On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > I found 45 unclaimed {dXX} rafsi, although possibly only 35, assuming {diV} > and {duV} aren't permissible. > > Considering the desire for {XXV}, I'm proposing {donla} {do'a} for the > aforementioned broda, which references {donri} and {la}. The relationship between "donri"/"la" and the wanted meaning a bit farfetched, I would almost prefer it if you said it was a randomly generated form. Perhaps it's not as bad as the etymology of "bemro", but still. If we were to express the wanted meaning in terms of existing words, it might be something like this: ko'a me ko'e (to noi namcu toi) moi lo djedi pe lo me ko'i (to noi namcu toi) moi be lo jeftu pe ko'o noi nanca ku'o fi'o ve detri ko'u The key words are "jeftu-djedi-moi". Indeed "jefydeimoi" might be a reasonable lujvo for this. The only problem with it is that it's an awful mouthful to create names like "pavyjefydeimoi", "reljefydeimoi", .... Or would it have to be "jefydeipavmoi", "jefydeirelmoi", ...? Anyway, if the idea is to create a lujvo/cmavo/bemro/dzipo type of gismu (i.e. one based on a Lojban etymology) then I suggest basing it on something more sensible than on "donri" and "la". (The best available rafsi for it seems to be "zoi", because all the week-day names would be two syllables. It has the -oi of moi, but I don't know where the "z" could be from.) mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.