Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3v4z-00088H-Pm; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 11:20:36 -0700 Received: by pwj6 with SMTP id 6sf43331pwj.16 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 11:20:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=VUkaftKeARn6ndCBj0BdR83iME6ihykhm7YZ2yUuarI=; b=lJWQdvqZxNz+rpFTfYUhJWpKCFkVaUmnba7bPDeUxPSy9AbGiPrMfhiY1GqGi+t7i6 d6LSlIwCNoxYCNuvI7MZVBqfxHNWYeBb5JtqROvGhjwzAsxEbCY8Vu0CnxxRMtIvkDS/ ZEumhY1kfKiiW0tcI895c4CcxzP/dwCBHltgM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=YwYxQM3LXw9Zd4vIdap4xUkkQFKr4JINTEAtEvjkKkNV4ip6LxtCB5h3lN4TnXqoUW c5iBIsZxIuJZjAtbFzQoU/XSnet1c+78grFj+BNNZ4PzB1U/AGtqxB8bZ2NT7l4/523J vF9t4J8ttS6S/LoMUt5PuUF5h0G/efYSjIZs8= Received: by 10.115.37.37 with SMTP id p37mr50227waj.28.1286475609177; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 11:20:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.85.40 with SMTP id n40ls316621wal.0.p; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 11:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.92.16 with SMTP id p16mr498350wab.36.1286475608206; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 11:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.92.16 with SMTP id p16mr498349wab.36.1286475608128; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 11:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id d12si2912826wam.7.2010.10.07.11.20.07; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 11:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=UAZ0ep3suvkVn+xl78ZyFqEJZfCyw4fsauT9kMdOA88= c=1 sm=0 a=s0PLcPsZT90A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=ILv7l0Qvm1UXlLBlumoA:9 a=sn_vWiF6HIat7n6lYSCT1U7HDGYA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:35965] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 23/A3-03860-75F0EAC4; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:20:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BDD604D for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2010 14:20:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: trying to make a name Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 14:20:03 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <582c1fd5-9b2e-41c1-84f4-46c3e5a48487@g6g2000pro.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <582c1fd5-9b2e-41c1-84f4-46c3e5a48487@g6g2000pro.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201010071420.04461.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 1100 On Thursday 07 October 2010 13:51:19 Lindar wrote: > So... it would be... > > la .mivytcan. > > Pronounced like "lah . MEEV-uh-chahn" If it's going to be pronounced by people who don't know Lojban, a lot of th= em=20 will get "mivnir" right and "mivytcan" wrong. I have a project=20 called "mumzel". It is "mumyzel" in Lojban, and is so called because the=20 structure is based on five and seven; but I take the 'y' out when referring= =20 to it in English. (I don't know what I'd do if I spoke Welsh. Welsh has 'y'= =20 sounding as in Lojban, but no letter 'z'; the sound may be an allophone=20 of 's'.) Pierre --=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.