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2010/10/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>

> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I found 45 unclaimed {dXX} rafsi, although possibly only 35, assuming
> {diV}
> > and {duV} aren't permissible.
> >
> > Considering the desire for {XXV}, I'm proposing {donla} {do'a} for the
> > aforementioned broda, which references {donri} and {la}.
>
> The relationship between "donri"/"la" and the wanted meaning a bit
> farfetched, I would almost prefer it if you said it was a randomly
> generated form. Perhaps it's not as bad as the etymology of "bemro",
> but still.
>
> If we were to express the wanted meaning in terms of existing words,
> it might be something like this:
>
>    ko'a me ko'e (to noi namcu toi) moi lo djedi pe lo me ko'i (to noi
> namcu toi) moi be lo jeftu pe ko'o noi nanca ku'o fi'o ve detri ko'u
>
> The key words are "jeftu-djedi-moi". Indeed "jefydeimoi" might be a
> reasonable lujvo for this. The only problem with it is that it's an
> awful mouthful to create names like "pavyjefydeimoi", "reljefydeimoi",
> .... Or would it have to be "jefydeipavmoi", "jefydeirelmoi", ...?
>
> Anyway, if the idea is to create a lujvo/cmavo/bemro/dzipo type of
> gismu (i.e. one based on a Lojban etymology) then I suggest basing it
> on something more sensible than on "donri" and "la".
>
> (The best available rafsi for it seems to be "zoi", because all the
> week-day names would be two syllables. It has the -oi of moi, but I
> don't know where the "z" could be from.)
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>

Okay, how about zonri, then, to make something up off the top of my head?

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o
zo'o
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/10/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span=
><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; =
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Jonathan Jones &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I found 45 unclaimed {dXX} rafsi, although possibly only 35, assuming =
{diV}<br>
&gt; and {duV} aren&#39;t permissible.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Considering the desire for {XXV}, I&#39;m proposing {donla} {do&#39;a}=
 for the<br>
&gt; aforementioned broda, which references {donri} and {la}.<br>
<br>
</div>The relationship between &quot;donri&quot;/&quot;la&quot; and the wan=
ted meaning a bit<br>
farfetched, I would almost prefer it if you said it was a randomly<br>
generated form. Perhaps it&#39;s not as bad as the etymology of &quot;bemro=
&quot;,<br>
but still.<br>
<br>
If we were to express the wanted meaning in terms of existing words,<br>
it might be something like this:<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0ko&#39;a me ko&#39;e (to noi namcu toi) moi lo djedi pe lo me ko&#3=
9;i (to noi<br>
namcu toi) moi be lo jeftu pe ko&#39;o noi nanca ku&#39;o fi&#39;o ve detri=
 ko&#39;u<br>
<br>
The key words are &quot;jeftu-djedi-moi&quot;. Indeed &quot;jefydeimoi&quot=
; might be a<br>
reasonable lujvo for this. The only problem with it is that it&#39;s an<br>
awful mouthful to create names like &quot;pavyjefydeimoi&quot;, &quot;relje=
fydeimoi&quot;,<br>
.... Or would it have to be &quot;jefydeipavmoi&quot;, &quot;jefydeirelmoi&=
quot;, ...?<br>
<br>
Anyway, if the idea is to create a lujvo/cmavo/bemro/dzipo type of<br>
gismu (i.e. one based on a Lojban etymology) then I suggest basing it<br>
on something more sensible than on &quot;donri&quot; and &quot;la&quot;.<br=
>
<br>
(The best available rafsi for it seems to be &quot;zoi&quot;, because all t=
he<br>
week-day names would be two syllables. It has the -oi of moi, but I<br>
don&#39;t know where the &quot;z&quot; could be from.)<br>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes<br>
</div></blockquote></div><br>Okay, how about zonri, then, to make something=
 up off the top of my head?<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .=
aionys.<br><br>.i.a&#39;o.e&#39;e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu=
 .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>

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