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Connotations leaking unintentionally (and in a way that doesn't seem to
originate in malrarbau either) into Lojban. .oiru'e

mu'o mi'e latros.

2010/10/11 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>

> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Use a construction with {zi'o} and perhaps with {be}?
>
> That works from a purely formal perspective, if you are only concerned
> with explicit meaning, but if you factor in the connotations I don't
> think it works as a neutral form very well. I don't think the
> craetionist would be too happy with "lo terzba be fi zi'o". (How dare
> you obliterate His place like that!) "zi'o" calls attention to the
> very place you least want the attention to go to, so it never really
> quite works as intended.
>
> How about "krapau": x1 is an original/source element of x2"? Makes me
> think of cars and such, though.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e latros.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/10/11 Jor=
ge Llamb=EDas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com"=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im">On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1=
:47 PM, Ian Johnson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blindbravado@gmail.com">blindbrav=
ado@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>

&gt; Use a construction with {zi&#39;o} and perhaps with {be}?<br>
<br>
</div>That works from a purely formal perspective, if you are only concerne=
d<br>
with explicit meaning, but if you factor in the connotations I don&#39;t<br=
>
think it works as a neutral form very well. I don&#39;t think the<br>
craetionist would be too happy with &quot;lo terzba be fi zi&#39;o&quot;. (=
How dare<br>
you obliterate His place like that!) &quot;zi&#39;o&quot; calls attention t=
o the<br>
very place you least want the attention to go to, so it never really<br>
quite works as intended.<br>
<br>
How about &quot;krapau&quot;: x1 is an original/source element of x2&quot;?=
 Makes me<br>
think of cars and such, though.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes<br>
<br>
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